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viper
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you for your replys.

I feel a little more educated.

There is much here to think about.

I very much like the idea of the THC Ministry.

I'm not sure how it operates though. How do you become a member ?

What does being a member of this church mean ?

What festivals are celebrated & how ?

How do Pagans & Wiccan's fit into your theology & are they welcome too ?

What, if any, protection from law enforcement terrorists does the church provide ?
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2004 5:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hey viper.. well, i strongly suggest you read everything on www.thc-ministry.org which is the orginal site of THC ministry. They have all the information you need to look up. have fun reading!
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The following was read on the air by radio commentator, Paul Harvey. (The original author is Bo Lozoff.)



An Open Letter from God

My dear children, and believe Me, that is all of you, I consider Myself a pretty patient guy. I mean, look at the Grand Canyon. It took millions of years to get it right. And about evolution? Boy, nothing is slower than designing that whole Darwinian thing to take place cell by cell and gene by gene.
And I have been patient through your fashions, your civilizations, wars and schemes, and the countless ways that you take Me for granted until you get yourselves into big trouble again and again.

I want to let you know about some of the things that started ticking Me off. First of all, your religious rivalries are driving Me up a wall. Enough already! Let’s get one thing straight. These are your religions, not Mine. I’m the whole enchilada. I’m beyond ‘em all.

Every one of your religions claims that there’s only one of Me, which, by the way, is absolutely true, but in the very next breath each religion claims that it’s My favorite one. And each claims its bible was written personally by Me, and that all of the other bibles are man-made. Oh, Me. How do I ever begin to put a stop to such complicated nonsense?

All right, listen up now. I am your Father and Mother, and I don't play favorites among My children.

Also, I hate to break it to you, but I don't write. My longhand is awful, and I’ve always been more of a doer anyway. So ALL of your books, including those bibles, were written by men and women. They were inspired men and women, they were remarkable people, but they also made mistakes here and there. And I made sure of that, so that you would never trust a written word rather than your own living heart.

You see, one human being to Me -- even a bum on the street -- is worth more than all of the holy books in the world. That’s just the kind of a guy I am. My spirit is not an historical thing. It’s alive right now, right now, as fresh as your next breath. Holy books and religious rites are sacred and powerful, but they are not more so than the least of you. They were only meant to steer you in the right direction, not to keep you arguing with each other, and certainly not to keep you from trusting your own personal connection with Me.

Which brings Me to My next point about your nonsense. You act like I need you and your religions to stick up for Me or win souls for My sake. Please, don't do Me any favors. I can stand quite well on My own, thank you. I don't need you to defend Me, I don't need constant credit. I just want you to be good to each other.

And another thing. I don't get all worked up over money or politics, so stop dragging My name into your dramas. For example, I swear to Me that I never threatened Oral Roberts. I never rode in any of Rajneesh’s Rolls Royces and I never told Pat Robertson to run for president, and I have never had a conversation with Jim Bakker, Jerry Falwell or Jimmy Swaggart. Of course, come Judgement Day, I certainly intend to.

Now the thing is, I want you to stop thinking of religion as some sort of a loyalty pledge to Me. The true purpose of religion is so that YOU can become more aware of ME, not the other way around. Believe Me, I know you already. I know what’s in each of your hearts, and I love you anyway with no strings attached. So, lighten up and enjoy Me. That’s what religion’s best for.

What you seem to forget is how mysterious I am. You look at the petty differences in your scriptures and you say, "Well, if this is the truth, then that can’t be." But instead of trying to figure out My paradoxes and unfathomable nature -- which, by the way, you never will -- why not open your hearts to the simple, common threads of every religion? You know what I’m talking about. Play nice with each other. Love and respect everyone. Be kind. Even when life is scary or confusing, take courage and be of good cheer, for I’m always with you.

And learn how to be quiet, so that you can hear My still, small voice. I don't like to shout. Leave the world a better place by living your life with dignity and gracefulness, for you are My own child. Hold back nothing from life, for the parts of you that can die surely will, and the parts that can’t, won’t. So don't worry, be happy. (I stole that last line from Bobby McFerrin, but Who gave it to him in the first place?)

Simple stuff now. Why do you keep making it so complicated? It’s like you’re always looking for an excuse to be upset. And I am very tired of being your main excuse. Do you think I care whether you call Me God, or Yahweh, or Jehovah, Allah, Wakatonka, Brahma, Father, Mother, even the Void of Nirvana? Do you think I care which of My Special Children you feel closest to -- Jesus, Mary, Buddha, Krishna, Muhammad or any of the others? You can call Me and My Special Ones any names you choose, if only you will go about My business of loving one another as I love you. How can you keep neglecting something so simple?

No, I am not telling you to abandon your religions. Enjoy your religions, honor them, learn from them, just as you should enjoy, honor, and learn from your parents. But do you walk around telling everyone that your parents are better than theirs? Your religion, like your parents, may always have the most special place in your heart. I don't mind that at all. And I don't want you to combine all of the great traditions into One Big Mess. Each religion is unique for a reason. Each has a unique style so that people can find the best path for themselves. But My Special Children -- the ones that your religions revolve around -- all live in the same place in My heart, and they get along perfectly, I assure you.

The clergy must stop creating a myth of sibling rivalry where there is none. My blessed children of Earth, the world has grown too small for your pervasive religious bigotries and confusion. The whole planet is now connected by air travel, satellite dishes, telephones, fax machines, rock concerts, diseases and mutual needs and concerns. Get with the program! If you really want to help me celebrate the birthday of My Son Jesus, then commit yourselves to figuring out how to feed your hungry and clothe your naked, and protect your abused and shelter your poor. And just as important, make your own everyday life a shining example of kindness and good humor. I’ve given you all the resources you need, if only you abandon your fear of each other and begin living, and loving and laughing together.

Finally, My children everywhere, remember whose birthday you honor on what you call Christmas Day, December 25th, and the fearlessness with which He chose to live and die. As I love Him, so do I love each of you.

Now, I am not really ticked off. Not really. I just wanted to grab your attention because I hate to see you suffer. But I gave you free will, so what can I do now other than try to influence you through reason, persuasion, and a little old-fashioned guilt and manipulation?

After all, you know I am the original Jewish Mother. I just want you to be happy, and I’ll sit in the dark. I really am, indeed I swear, with you always. Always. Trust in Me.

Your One and Only,...

God
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

marvelous. where do u get all these fantastic posts from. Cool
there isn't much else i can say following that, apart from, keep them coming Smile Very Happy Cool
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Peace my brother walk on, Keep up the good fight.
your loving sista ~Lilli~
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PostPosted: Sun Feb 22, 2004 7:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
God being male


God could be female Wink
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 2:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Shocked so u gotta beleave in god , damnit i refuse to do that lol cud yaz not just worthship the plant Sad
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 3:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fitzy wrote:
Shocked so u gotta beleave in god , damnit i refuse to do that lol cud yaz not just worthship the plant Sad


Nope, you don't have to believe in "God" at all, some do, some don't (like me), welcome Fitzy! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very Happy Sweet, Thanx viper
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

opps i'm stoned i mean thanx Ferre Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 4:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"And learn how to be quiet, so that you can hear My still, small voice"

From Lilli's post of Paul Harvey's show.

Regardless of your religious beliefs or your lack of belief of a god or higher power there is a part of something divine in each and every one of us.

We are not the voices we hear in our head. We are not the anger, fear, loathing we feel in our heart, stomach or where ever we feel it. That is all ego.

We are the silent observer of all these ego-manufactured things. They are the ego trying to take over our body and soul. It is the ego's fight for life.

Many of the "religious" problems, if not all, are ego driven. It is man that creates the problem not God.

The divinity within all of us can be found in the silence. We are doing ourselves great harm by not connected to the silence, by not connecting to the now.

God, spiritual awakening, and peace.... all these can be found within. We have to let go of the past and not excessively worry about the future. We have to plan. We have to think, react, breathe, eat and do all sorts of things. But once we are done with that we have to return to the NOW. We have to return to silence.

I for one have to listen to the silence. A true spiritual leader has nothing to give or teach. They can show you what you already have, what has already been given by the divine.

If any of you are like me I have struggled greatly with the ego. I had been so identified with my anger. I was so identified with violence. I was a fighter in and out of the ring. That is who my ego wanted me to be. For years that is how my life was driven. For years I did great harm to people who got in the way of ego.

That is not who I am.

And even though I say we cannot relive the past, I do remember the pain I caused, the injuries that were suffered, the physical and emotional wounds I left in my wake. But I try not to live in those memories. I try to recognize that I am thinking of something that occurred in the past and I am thinking of it in the now. I try to observe the thoughts and the feeling it evokes. Once I do that and identify them they lose their power over who I am. But I have to admit my ego keeps trying to bring the memories back to re-establish control.

Once I found silence I found God. For me that God is Jehovah. That is the small voice that I don't actually hear, but it is the intuitive knowing I find in silence. It is awareness.

Regardless of your beliefs I recommend the books of Ekhart Tolle. If any of what I have said here makes you say, “Hey, that’s how I feel.” Read the Power of Now and Stillness Speaks.

There is also a book I enjoyed called “God As Nature Sees God”

As I said, for me God exist and has an identity. It is in the silence, the stillness and the now that I am most connected to the divinity within and my father.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 13, 2004 6:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oooo i like i like Very Happy
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know some clergy that really know whats going on and arnt full of bs and know what they talking about and know the truth. I mean these guys have studied scripute all their life am so blessed to meet such fine fellows. But also from small town and most everyone knows what they say so kinda helps lol and I know there is a god for anyone wondering and he is real and he made sacrement for us all yay!!!
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 22, 2004 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

viper wrote:
Thank you all for your responses.

So, lets see, correct me if I go wrong;-

You all believe in a singular god, but not neccessarily the same one.

You believe the god to be male.



In my beief I dnot not belive in a one god but the God and Godess the male and female. I do belive in a one power and if i was to be referignto the one power when saying God it would be singular but genderless. To me God is "The One" and represent all of everthing seen and un seen. the God and Godess are what i worship and celibrate and canibus to me is the devine spirit of teh godes manifest and alows me to be filled by teh godes by consuming it.
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