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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 11:22 am    Post subject: The church-state myth Reply with quote

It is good to see this. It seems that clean Christianity is simply to love one another; Bush is not a representative of honest Christianity where killing and murder are absent... Obedient Christianity does not allow cannabis prohibition and so in the real realm there is no need for separation of church and state; only a need for separation of state and men of lawlessness. The state with the true church could only love one another.

The following letter I read in a Penn. newspaper was welcome.

The church-state myth

The letter from Jim Grossman Jr., about the relation between the state and religion, was written without thought, I hope ("Separating church & steak," Nov. 23). Certainly it was written without a close knowledge of either the Catholic Church or the Bill of Rights.

Mr. Grossman thinks that "there is a separation of church and state." In fairness to him, this is the most flagrant misconception of how our Constitution reads.

It is an abomination that began with a phrase written by Thomas Jefferson in a private letter. In 1947 Supreme Court Justice Hugo Black inserted the phrase into the decision Everson v. Board of Education and contextually changed it so that it appeared that there truly was a wall of separation intended in the First Amendment.
It was not, and it is irresponsible to continue this myth. Every authority who has researched and written on this knows that "separation of church and state" is an unfortunate metaphor meant neither to appear as law nor to convey the erroneous interpretation that was forced on us by Justice Black.

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PostPosted: Mon Dec 06, 2004 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a matter of simple historical fact that the United States was not founded as, nor was it ever intended to be, a Christian nation. That there were strong, long-lasting Christian influences involved in the nation's earliest history, due to the Puritan settlements and those of other religious persons escaping European persecution, cannot be denied. But that is a long way from saying that colonial leaders, by the time of the outbreak of the Revolution, were intending to form a nation founded on specifically Christian principles and doctrine.


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