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Memo on torture stokes ethics-versus-faith debate

 
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PostPosted: Mon Jul 05, 2004 9:37 pm    Post subject: Memo on torture stokes ethics-versus-faith debate Reply with quote

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Jay Bybee, a devout Mormon who in 2002 was head of the Justice Department's Office of Legal Counsel, signed an August memorandum that year that said certain interrogation techniques could be used legally as long as the pain involved was less than that accompanying "serious physical injury, such as organ failure, impairment of bodily function or even death." If the intent is to gain information, not just to cause harm, the memo reasoned, these techniques fall outside the legal definition of torture forbidden by international law. The controversial memo, since disavowed by the White House, has sparked a lively Internet debate among LDS lawyers about whether Bybee violated his professional and religious ethics while writing it.

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This is very disturbing and I never thought to live the day to see this really happening. Shocked

This is sick! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 8:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Evil evil evil!!!! How can these people justify their actions.
Twisted Evil Evil or Very Mad Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 3:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't get it either, but it is still disturbing.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What he stated is that torture, and pain are "acceptable" if it won't cause the victim to die from the injuries. Evil or Very Mad

(Read: when it's still possible to cover it up)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 06, 2004 11:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, afterall people DO talk about anything you want when you start to cut of little pieces or rape them with electric devices, "intelligence" can get "valueable information" this way and how else can we ever win the war on "terrorists" or even know who they are. (sarc.)

Man,.... these dudes are soo sick! Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So hurt them all you want just don't let them die because of what you do to them. Can I vomit now?
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 2:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jay Bybee's memo wrote:
these techniques fall outside the legal definition of torture forbidden by international law


Yeah, you can vomit now, I guess we all have to. vomito
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 07, 2004 6:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So why dont they use truth drugs ah i know they like inflicting this sort of thing on people they're sadists from the same mold as Saddam Huisan Adolf Hitler Mugabe
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