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Lilli
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 8:57 am    Post subject: Look what someone wrote.The guest book here Reply with quote

Look what someone wrote.
Saturday, 7. February 2004 01:00

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Dear believers of the THC Ministry,

Can you show me where, in the Bible, Jesus condones using a drug to get closer to him? Also, can you realistically justify your implied belief that weed replaces the feeling that the Holy Spirit gives? What is the difference between getting intoxied by alcohol, which the Bible specifically speaks against doing, and getting intoxid by smoking? Do any of you think that if you died tomorrow, you'd actually go to be with Christ? Do you think that the Lord will be pleased that you're working so fervently to sew into the sins of others? If you have read the Bible...and have read about about Christ...you would know that what you're doing is wrong. My friends, whether you take this as a joke or not, I pray that the Lord put a stop to what you're doing...because I tell you the truth, God will NOT be pleased with what your work and lack of faith. I also pray that the Holy Spirit will work in your hearts, and will provide the TRUE love that Christ gives, which is not through bags of weed; it's through prayer and faith.

May God be with you all:

L. West

Lets write her as she asks friends. westys@hotmail.com

Lilli
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lilli, that has been on there for a long time now and everyone is entitled to have their own opinion. I remember I did reply and never got an answer.

I would say... just let it rest, it's not worth putting energy in, really.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 12:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh ok I see.I didnt see your reply I was just skimming thru it. Well I just didnt want her to leave feeling unanswered. So many people are trapped by the trappings of a badly mistranslated bible. Its equivalent to bondage in ignorance. Its sad that they cant live life to the fullest and enjoy all the sweet things this world has to offer. Theres many that their religions speak against alcohol regardless that Jesus turned water to wine.And go thru guilt trips for drinking a beer or two.Looks like then if you answered her shes just tryong to throw some guilt on us, Thas sad.
"Christian" is such an ugly word anymore as it should be when you look at the atrocitys and lies religions have done in the name of Christ. I dont even like to use that name anymore it isnt biblical in the first place. And with it comes all the bloody baggage the "pseudo christians past brings with it"
I think I will call ourselves "believers"from now on. Or there is a hebrew term i like "Ben e ha Elohim" means sons and daughters of the true God.(sp?). Well I need coffee. have a great day Ferre and everyone. Love Lilli
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 2:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well after coffee I got to thinking about it and maybe our wisdom could help free her from the false legalisms that many christians are being opressed with so I wrote her in all love. I know people who are just like her. I slipped her the keys to freedom if she unlocks her shackles with it is up to her. At least I tried and will look back with no regret about her. " Heres what I wrote.

Life or Death
Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely,in a pretty and well-preserved body, but rather to skid broadside,thouroughly used up,totaly worn out, and loudly proclaiming WOW WHAT A RIDE!!!!!!!
Your choices are few but the final decision can be yours when it comes to the bottom line.
What if I told you this could be a cure for you? What if I told you it was an ancient recipe passed down to Moses from God himself. But has been obscured due to bible mistranslations.
What if I told you that here in the United States you could go to jail for using this recipe...for simply following the recipe to the letter you could spend time in prison? WELL YOU CAN!
Your government doesnt want you to know these facts.....

According to scholars at the Hebrew University in Jerusalem, it has been confirmed (as of 1980) that the editors of the King James Bible apparently mistranslated the word kineboisin for calamus -- a tragic error that haunts Christians, Jews, and their victims to this day.

Would you make the bold step and try and get healed no matter what? Does this holy recipe hold hope for you or a loved one? Being very ill the decision was mine. I had too! It was do or prepare to die.

My illness had gotten so bad that I was to weak to even take the meds that drew the fluids off my body. As they make you go urinate every 5 mins. After many days of not taking them my body swelled with fluids making everything a struggle. I had been aware of this bible mistranslation. I soon embarked on an internet journey that has changed my life.

I sought and found relief from Chronic fatigue syndrom, conjestive heart failure, advanced copd disease, arthritis.glaucoma, diabetes.sleep apnea, seizures,restless leg syndrom severe muscle spasms and hyperthyroidism.

I found the THC Ministry!!!!! EUREKA Thank you Lord. After 18 years on disabilaty the last 10 had been really hard an taken its toll. Weary an heavey laden slowly getting buried deeper by layers and layers of illness and depression. I joined the forum there and in 3 months time was on my way to a amazing, healthy and complete recovery.

I was recieved warmly into the forum and enjoyed many new friends, after a really bad week with my illness I decided to go ahead and share my grim health situation with everyone there. I had been enjoying the medicinal properties of cannabis for years but my illness had still progressed to the point it was dangerous,

I was given the gift of the Sacrement kit from my dear minister..... the Reverend Roger Christe along with some very important documents. The Cannabis Sanctuary Kit includes powerful legal precedents, successful cases and a history of Roger's religious credentials and successful court actions. There wrapped in a napkin was the 1/2 ounce bottle of the Holy Annoited oil The exact recipe God had given to Moses in my hand. I could barely read the documents as my vision had become so damaged from the glaucoma and the diabetes. I put everything back and didnt use it till the next day.

Whats to come in these pages is the leading up to and the annoiting and what followed.. I noticed the effects with in an hour of using it and by 14 days my family and I was astounded at what happened. I was being healed with dramatic and fast results.
"And I will raise up for them a plant of renown, and they shall be no more consumed with hunger in the land, neither bear the shame of the heathen any more. -- Ezekiel 34:29 "

The ancient recipe for this anointing oil, recorded in the Old Testament book of Exodus (30: 22-23) included over nine pounds of flowering cannabis tops, Hebrew "kaneh-bosm" B, extracted into a hind (about 6.5 litres) of olive oil, along with a variety of other herbs and spices. The ancient chosen ones were literally drenched in this potent cannabis holy oil.

The Greek title "Christ" is the translation of the Hebrew word Messiah, which in English becomes "The Anointed" D. The Messiah was recognized as such by his being anointed with the holy anointing oil, the use of which was restricted to the instillation of Hebrew priests and kings (See CC#5). If Jesus was not initiated in this fashion then he was not the Christ, and had no official claim to the title.


Cannabis Holy Anointing Oil Biblical References "anoint*" (used 163 times in 151 verses, not all referring to the Holy Anointing Oil, but many, many do): Genesis 31:13 I am the God of Bethel, where thou anointedst the pillar, and where thou vowedst a vow unto me: now arise, get thee out from this land, and return unto the land of thy kindred.
Exodus 25:6 Oil for the light, spices for anointing oil, and for sweet incense,
Exodus 28:41 And thou shalt put them upon Aaron thy brother, and his sons with him; and shalt anoint them, and consecrate them, and sanctify them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Exodus 29:2 And unleavened bread, and cakes unleavened tempered with oil, and wafers unleavened anointed with oil: of wheaten flour shalt thou make them.
Exodus 29:7 Then shalt thou take the anointing oil, and pour it upon his head, and anoint him.
Exodus 29:21 And thou shalt take of the blood that is upon the altar, and of the anointing oil, and sprinkle it upon Aaron, and upon his garments, and upon his sons, and upon the garments of his sons with him: and he shall be hallowed, and his garments, and his sons, and his sons' garments with him.
Exodus 29:29 And the holy garments of Aaron shall be his sons' after him, to be anointed therein, and to be consecrated in them.
Exodus 30:22 Moreover the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,
Exodus 30:23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus* two hundred and fifty shekels,
Exodus 30:24 And of cassia five hundred shekels, after the shekel of the sanctuary, and of oil olive an hin:
Exodus 30:25 And thou shalt make it an oil of holy ointment, an ointment compound after the art of the apothecary: it shall be an holy anointing oil. Exodus 30:26 And thou shalt anoint the tabernacle of the congregation therewith, and the ark of the testimony,
Exodus 30:27 And the table and all his vessels, and the candlestick and his vessels, and the altar of incense,
Exodus 30:28 And the altar of burnt offering with all his vessels, and the laver and his foot. Exodus 30:29 And thou shalt sanctify them, that they may be most holy: whatsoever toucheth them shall be holy.
Exodus 30:30 And thou shalt anoint Aaron and his sons, and consecrate them, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Exodus 30:31 And thou shalt speak unto the children of Israel, saying, This shall be an holy anointing oil unto me throughout your generations. Exodus 31:11 And the anointing oil, and sweet incense for the holy place: according to all that I have commanded thee shall they do.
Exodus 35:8 And oil for the light, and spices for anointing oil, and for the sweet incense,
Exodus 35:15 And the incense altar, and his staves, and the anointing oil,and the sweet incense, and the hanging for the door at the entering in of the tabernacle,
Exodus 35:28 And spice, and oil for the light, and for the anointing oil, and for the sweet incense.
Exodus 37:29 And he made the holy anointing oil, and the pure incense of sweet spices, according to the work of the apothecary.
Exodus 39:38 And the golden altar, and the anointing oil, and the sweet incense, and the hanging for the tabernacle door,
Exodus 40:9 And thou shalt take the anointing oil, and anoint the tabernacle, and all that is therein, and shalt hallow it, and all the vessels thereof: and it shall be holy.
Exodus 40:10 And thou shalt anoint the altar of the burnt offering, and all his vessels, and sanctify the altar: and it shall be an altar most holy. Exodus 40:11 And thou shalt anoint the laver and his foot, and sanctify it. Exodus 40:13 And thou shalt put upon Aaron the holy garments, and anoint him, and sanctify him; that he may minister unto me in the priest's office.
Exodus 40:15 And thou shalt anoint them, as thou didst anoint their father, that they may minister unto me in the priest's office: for their anointing shall surely be an everlasting priesthood throughout their generations.
Numbers 18:8 ¶And the LORD spake unto Aaron, Behold, I also have given thee the charge of mine heave offerings of all the hallowed things of the children of Israel; unto thee have I given them by reason of the anointing, and to thy sons, by an ordinance for ever.
Numbers 35:25 And the congregation shall deliver the slayer out of the hand of the revenger of blood, and the congregation shall restore him to the city of his refuge, whither he was fled: and he shall abide in it unto the death of the high priest, which was anointed with the holy oil. Deuteronomy 28:40 Thou shalt have olive trees throughout all thy coasts, but thou shalt not anoint thyself with the oil; for thine olive shall cast his fruit.
1 Samuel 2:10 The adversaries of the LORD shall be broken to pieces; out of heaven shall he thunder upon them: the LORD shall judge the ends of the earth; and he shall give strength unto his king, and exalt the horn of his anointed.
1 Samuel 2:35 And I will raise me up a faithful priest, that shall do according to that which is in mine heart and in my mind: and I will build him a sure house; and he shall walk before mine anointed for ever.
1 Samuel 9:16 Tomorrow about this time I will send thee a man out of the land of Benjamin, and thou shalt anoint him to be captain over my people Israel, that he may save my people out of the hand of the Philistines: for I have looked upon my people, because their cry is come unto me.
1 Samuel 10:1 ¶Then Samuel took a vial of oil, and poured it upon his head, and kissed him, and said, Is it not because the LORD hath anointed thee to be captain over his inheritance?
1 Samuel 12:3 Behold, here I am: witness against me before the LORD, and before his anointed: whose ox have I taken? or whose ass have I taken? or whom have I defrauded? whom have I oppressed? or of whose hand have I received any bribe to blind mine eyes therewith? and I will restore it you.
1 Samuel 12:5 And he said unto them, The LORD is witness against you, and his anointed is witness this day, that ye have not found ought in my hand. And they answered, He is witness.
1 Samuel 15:1 ¶Samuel also said unto Saul, The LORD sent me to anoint thee to be king over his people, over Israel: now therefore hearken thou unto the voice of the words of the LORD.
1 Samuel 15:17 And Samuel said, When thou wast little in thine own sight, wast thou not made the head of the tribes of Israel, and the LORD anointed thee king over Israel?
1 Samuel 16:3 And call Jesse to the sacrifice, and I will shew thee what thou shalt do: and thou shalt anoint unto me him whom I name unto thee. 1 Samuel 16:6 ¶And it came to pass, when they were come, that he looked on Eliab, and said, Surely the LORD'S anointed is before him. 1 Samuel 16:12 And he sent, and brought him in. Now he was ruddy, and withal of a beautiful countenance, and goodly to look to. And the LORD said, Arise, anoint him: for this is he.
1 Samuel 16:13 Then Samuel took the horn of oil, and anointed him in the midst of his brethren: and the Spirit of the LORD came upon David from that day forward. So Samuel rose up, and went to Ramah.
1 Samuel 24:6 And he said unto his men, The LORD forbid that I should do this thing unto my master, the LORD'S anointed, to stretch forth mine hand against him, seeing he is the anointed of the LORD.
1 Samuel 24:10 Behold, this day thine eyes have seen how that the LORD had delivered thee to day into mine hand in the cave: and some bade me kill thee: but mine eye spared thee; and I said, I will not put forth mine hand against my lord; for he is the LORD'S anointed.
1 Samuel 26:9 And David said to Abishai, Destroy him not: for who can stretch forth his hand against the LORD'S anointed, and be guiltless?
1 Samuel 26:11 The LORD forbid that I should stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed: but, I pray thee, take thou now the spear that is at his bolster, and the cruse of water, and let us go.
1 Samuel 26:16 This thing is not good that thou hast done. As the LORD liveth, ye are worthy to die, because ye have not kept your master, the LORD'S anointed. And now see where the king's spear is, and the cruse of water that was at his bolster.
1 Samuel 26:23 The LORD render to every man his righteousness and his faithfulness: for the LORD d elivered thee into my hand to day, but I would not stretch forth mine hand against the LORD'S anointed.
2 Samuel 1:14 And David said unto him, How wast thou not afraid to stretch forth thine hand to destroy the LORD'S anointed?
2 Samuel 1:16 And David said unto him, Thy blood be upon thy head; for thy mouth hath testified against thee, saying, I have slain the LORD'S anointed.
2 Samuel 1:21 Ye mountains of Gilboa, let there be no dew, neither let there be rain, upon you, nor fields of offerings: for there the shield of the mighty is vilely cast away, the shield of Saul, as though he had not been anointed with oil.
2 Samuel 2:4 And the men of Judah came, and there they anointed David king over the house of Judah. And they told David, saying, That the men of Jabeshgilead were they that buried Saul.
2 Samuel 2:7 Therefore now let your hands be strengthened, and be ye valiant: for your master Saul is dead, and also the house of Judah have anointed me king over them.
2 Samuel 3:39 And I am this day weak, though anointed king; and these men the sons of Zeruiah be too hard for me: the LORD shall reward the doer of evil according to his wickedness.
2 Samuel 5:3 So all the elders of Israel came to the king to Hebron; and king David made a league with them in Hebron before the LORD: and they anointed David king over Israel.
2 Samuel 5:17 ¶But when the Philistines heard that they had anointed David king over Israel, all the Philistines came up to seek David; and David heard of it, and went down to the hold.
2 Samuel 12:7 And Nathan said to David, Thou art the man. Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I anointed thee king over Israel, and I delivered thee out of the hand of Saul;
2 Samuel 12:20 Then David arose from the earth, and washed, and anointed himself, and changed his apparel, and came into the house of the LORD, and worshipped: then he came to his own house; and when he required, they set bread before him, and he did eat.
2 Samuel 14:2 And Joab sent to Tekoah, and fetched thence a wise woman, and said unto her, I pray thee, feign thyself to be a mourner, and put on now mourning apparel, and anoint not thyself with oil, but be as a woman that had a long time mourned for the dead:
2 Samuel 19:10 And Absalom, whom we anointed over us, is dead in battle. Now therefore why speak ye not a word of bringing the king back? 2 Samuel 19:21 But Abishai the son of Zeruiah answered and said, Shall not Shimei be put to death for this, because he cursed the LORD'S anointed?
2 Samuel 22:51 He is the tower of salvation for his king: and sheweth mercy to his anointed, unto David, and to his seed for evermore. 2 Samuel 23:1 ¶Now these be the last words of David. David the son of Jesse said, and the man who was raised up on high, the anointed of the God of Jacob, and the sweet psalmist of Israel, said,
1 Kings 1:34 And let Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet anoint him there king over Israel: and blow ye with the trumpet, and say, God save king Solomon.
1 Kings 1:39 And Zadok the priest took an horn of oil out of the tabernacle, and anointed Solomon. And they blew the trumpet; and all the people said, God save king Solomon.
1 Kings 1:45 And Zadok the priest and Nathan the prophet have anointed him king in Gihon: and they are come up from thence rejoicing, so that the city rang again. This is the noise that ye have heard.
1 Kings 5:1 ¶And Hiram king of Tyre sent his servants unto Solomon; for he had heard that they had anointed him king in the room of his father: for Hiram was ever a lover of David.
1 Kings 19:15 And the LORD said unto him, Go, return on thy way to the wilderness of Damascus: and when thou comest, anoint Hazael to be king over Syria:
1 Kings 19:16 And Jehu the son of Nimshi shalt thou anoint to be king over Israel: and Elisha the son of Shaphat of Abelmeholah shalt thou anoint to be prophet in thy room.
2 Kings 9:3 Then take the box of oil, and pour it on his head, and say, Thus saith the LORD, I have anointed thee king over Israel. Then open the door, and flee, and tarry not.
2 Kings 9:6 And he arose, and went into the house; and he poured the oil on his head, and said unto him, Thus saith the LORD God of Israel, I have anointed thee king over the people of the LORD, even over Israel. 2 Kings 9:12 And they said, It is false; tell us now. And he said, Thus and thus spake he to me, saying, Thus saith the LORD, I have anointed thee king over Israel.
2 Kings 11:12 And he brought forth the king's son, and put the crown upon him, and gave him the testimony; and they made him king, and anointed him; and they clapped their hands, and said, God save the king. 2 Kings 23:30 And his servants carried him in a chariot dead from Megiddo, and brought him to Jerusalem, and buried him in his own sepulchre. And the people of the land took Jehoahaz the son of Josiah, and anointed him, and made him king in his father's stead.
1 Chronicles 11:3 Therefore came all the elders of Israel to the king to Hebron; and David made a covenant with them in Hebron before the LORD; and they anointed David king over Israel, according to the word of the LORD by Samuel.
1 Chronicles 14:8 ¶And when the Philistines heard that David was anointed king over all Israel, all the Philistines went up to seek David. And David heard of it, and went out against them.
1 Chronicles 16:22 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
1 Chronicles 29:22 And did eat and drink before the LORD on that day with great gladness. ] And they made Solomon the son of David king the second time, and anointed him unto the LORD to be the chief governor, and Zadok to be priest.
2 Chronicles 6:42 O LORD God, turn not away the face of thine anointed: remember the mercies of David thy servant.
2 Chronicles 22:7 And the destruction of Ahaziah was of God by coming to Joram: for when he was come, he went out with Jehoram against Jehu the son of Nimshi, whom the LORD had anointed to cut off the house of Ahab.
2 Chronicles 23:11 Then they brought out the king's son, and put upon him the crown, and gave him the testimony, and made him king. And Jehoiada and his sons anointed him, and said, God save the king.
2 Chronicles 28:15 And the men which were expressed by name rose up, and took the captives, and with the spoil clothed all that were naked among them, and arrayed them, and shod them, and gave them to eat and to drink, and anointed them, and carried all the feeble of them upon asses, and brought them to Jericho, the city of palm trees, to their brethren: then they returned to Samaria.
Psalms 2:2 The kings of the earth set themselves, and the rulers take counsel together, against the LORD, and against his anointed, saying, Psalms 18:50 Great deliverance giveth he to his king; and sheweth mercy to his anointed, to David, and to his seed for evermore.
Psalms 20:6 ¶Now know I that the LORD saveth his anointed; he will hear him from his holy heaven with the saving strength of his right hand. Psalms 23:5 Thou preparest a table before me in the presence of mine enemies: thou anointest my head with oil; my cup runneth over.
Psalms 28:8 The LORD is their strength, and he is the saving strength of his anointed.
Psalms 45:7 Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
Psalms 84:9 Behold, O God our shield, and look upon the face of thine anointed.
Psalms 89:20 I have found David my servant; with my holy oil have I anointed him:
Psalms 89:38 ¶But thou hast cast off and abhorred, thou hast been wroth with thine anointed.
Psalms 89:51 Wherewith thine enemies have reproached, O LORD; wherewith they have reproached the footsteps of thine anointed.
Psalms 92:10 But my horn shalt thou exalt like the horn of an unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.
Psalms 105:15 Saying, Touch not mine anointed, and do my prophets no harm.
Psalms 132:10 For thy servant David's sake turn not away the face of thine anointed.
Psalms 132:17 There will I make the horn of David to bud: I have ordained a lamp for mine anointed.

Isaiah 10:27 And it shall come to pass in that day, that his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing.
Isaiah 21:5 Prepare the table, watch in the watchtower, eat, drink: arise, ye princes, and anoint the shield.
Isaiah 45:1 ¶Thus saith the LORD to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holden, to subdue nations before him; and I will loose the loins of kings, to open before him the two leaved gates; and the gates shall not be shut;
Isaiah 61:1 ¶The Spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings unto the meek; he hath sent me to bind up the brokenhearted, to proclaim liberty to the captives, and the opening of the prison to them that are bound; Lamentations 4:20 The breath of our nostrils, the anointed of the LORD, was taken in their pits, of whom we said, Under his shadow we shall live among the heathen. Ezekiel 16:9 Then washed I thee with water; yea, I throughly washed away thy blood from thee, and I anointed thee with oil.
Ezekiel 28:14 Thou art the anointed cherub that covereth; and I have set thee so: thou wast upon the holy mountain of God; thou hast walked up and down in the midst of the stones of fire.
Daniel 9:24 Seventy weeks are determined upon thy people and upon thy holy city, to finish the transgression, and to make an end of sins, and to make reconciliation for iniquity, and to bring in everlasting righteousness, and to seal up the vision and prophecy, and to anoint the most Holy.
Daniel 10:3 I ate no pleasant bread, neither came flesh nor wine in my mouth, neither did I anoint myself at all, till three whole weeks were fulfilled.
Habakkuk 3:13 Thou wentest forth for the salvation of thy people, even for salvation with thine anointed; thou woundedst the head out of the house of the wicked, by discovering the foundation unto the neck. Selah. Zechariah 4:14 Then said he, These are the two anointed ones, that stand by the Lord of the whole earth.
Matthew 6:17 But thou, when thou fastest, anoint thine head, and wash thy face;
Mark 6:13 And they cast out many devils, and anointed with oil many that were sick, and healed them.
Mark 14:8 She hath done what she could: she is come aforehand to anoint my body to the burying.
Mark 16:1 ¶And when the sabbath was past, Mary Magdalene, and Mary the mother of James, and Salome, had bought sweet spices, that they might come and anoint him.
Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
2 Corinthians 1:21 Now he which stablisheth us with you in Christ, and hath anointed us, is God;
Hebrews 1:9 Thou hast loved righteousness, and hated iniquity; therefore God, even thy God, hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.
James 5:14 Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord:
1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Revelation 3:18 I counsel thee to buy of me gold tried in the fire, that thou mayest be rich; and white raiment, that thou mayest be clothed, and that the shame of thy nakedness do not appear; and anoint thine eyes with eyesalve, that thou mayest see. ("sweet cane" - used 2 times in 2 verses, once most appropriately here):
Isaiah 43:24 Thou hast bought me no sweet cane with money, neither hast thou filled me with the fat of thy sacrifices: but thou hast made me to serve with thy sins, thou hast wearied me with thine iniquities. ("calamus" - used 3 times in 3 verses):
Exodus 30:23 Take thou also unto thee principal spices, of pure myrrh five hundred shekels, and of sweet cinnamon half so much, even two hundred and fifty shekels, and of sweet calamus two hundred and fifty shekels,
Song of Songs 4:14 Spikenard and saffron; calamus and cinnamon, with all trees of frankincense; myrrh and aloes, with all the chief spices: Ezekiel 27:19 Dan also and Javan going to and fro occupied in thy fairs: bright iron, cassia, and calamus, were in thy market. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~` Also a favourite of mine, from the Biblical Apocrypha, Ecclesiasticus (Sirach, Wisdom of Sirach) Sirach, from The holy Bible, King James version ( Apocrypha)(Ecclesiasticus) {NOTE: Pay special attention to the interesting chapter 38, verse 11, which reads, in the correct and original 1611 Edition King James Version Bible: 11: Give a sweet savour, and a memoriall of fine flowre; and make a fat offering, as not being.
12: Then give place to the physitian, for the Lord hath created him: let him not go from thee, for thou has need of him. They changed the original word "flowre", meaning "flower" (!) to "flour" (meaning ground meal/grain) in modern 'Biblical Apocrypha'. ... the "fat" offering I believe references not the erroneous and un-God-ly burning of animal fat (which is a mis-translation and also giving in to the people's customs and against the God-ly plan) but refers instead to a "large" or "important, significant" offering. There are many references to the word "fat" being ] used in the Bible to refer to wealth, greatness, largeness, importance and significance,
to wit: Genesis 45:18 And take your father and your households, and come unto me: and I will give you the good of the land of Egypt, and ye shall eat the fat of the land.
Genesis 49:20 Out of Asher his bread shall be fat, and he shall yield royal dainties.
Numbers 13:20 And what the land is, whether it be fat or lean, whether there be wood therein, or not. And be ye of good courage, and bring of the fruit of the land. Now the time was the time of the firstripe grapes. ESP.: 1 Samuel 2:29 Wherefore kick ye at my sacrifice and at mine offering, which I have commanded in my habitation; and honourest thy sons above me, to make yourselves fat with the chiefest of all the offerings of ] Israel my people?
1 Chronicles 4:40 And they found fat pasture and good, and the land was wide, and quiet, and peaceable; for they of Ham had dwelt there of old. Nehemiah 9:25 And they took strong cities, and a fat land, and possessed houses full of all goods, wells digged, vineyards, and oliveyards, and fruit trees in abundance: so they did eat, and were filled, and became fat, and delighted themselves in thy great goodness.
Nehemiah 9:35 For they have not served thee in their kingdom, and in thy great goodness that thou gavest them, and in the large and fat land which thou gavest before them, neither turned they from their wicked works
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I hope this answers some of your questions. Do log in and register and see the testimony thread concerning my healing. Subject :the holy annoited oil Sincerely and with upmost respect
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe you could kindly break that reply into paragraphs so it could be easier for most people to read?

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 31, 2004 4:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok bro Ill give it a whirl. edit There ya go. Much better.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, that´s the thing about tolerance, everyone is in their own right to speak freely what they think, and they deserve respect when they are not hurting anyone but just having a point of view. Sadly there are many people who use weed as a drug and are those who make other people think what they want.
So if we ask for tolerance for ourselves we should be tolerant with other points of view too.
Let her think what she wants, there are tons more like her, its just for nothing to reply her if she haven´t replied earlier.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well she asked for scriptures an I gave her plenty of them to contemplate.
I emailed her. I hope she reads with an open mind. Like I said I gave her the keys to undo her shackles. if she uses them is up to her. I hope she does. I invited her to the forum so we shall see what happens. I'm kinda like the mailman hehe my jobs to deliver the good news. It isnt to stand there an watch to see if they read it.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Awesome reply Lilli. You write so well and your tone, as walways was polite and caring.

Even if the individual does nto give it a try I hope your reply serves to make them less judgemental.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 7:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank you Slide. The first part of her letter....up to the scriptures Is the introduction to my book. Wink So I Just pasted it to her letter and gave you all a sneak peak to the introduction part of my book. It fit and it serves me now to know how it reads. Im glad you enjoyed it.
This is going to be a great Book and I am so pleased with the direction and smootheness its all taking. Please keep me in your prayers
Its the Holy Spirit thats teaching me as I go.
"1 John 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him."
Please keep Chazman in your prayers to as he is editing for me. And we all know how I type.ShockedShockedShockedShockedShockedShocked
lol Oh I am trying to quit typing like I talk. lol yes I have a southern kind of accent and Im trying to stop with the yeah ya and yers. And replace them with yes you and yours. So when I say Chaz can benefit from your prayers lol you know Im meaning it. Love always Lilli
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is put forward that the recipe calls for olive oil... Could this not also have been a misinterpretation?

"* A fully mature hemp plant may contain half of its dry weight in seed. * Hemp seed has an oil content of 34%, more than any other seed. Hemp Seed can contain up to 24% protein, is high in 5 major minerals, is easy to digest, is high in fibre. The pressed seed oil is 30% of total seed weight." http://www.friendlystranger.com/info/hemp/hempseedoil.htm

also http://www.ganjaland.com/oil.htm has some info put together pretty well...

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PostPosted: Thu Apr 01, 2004 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Interesting concept Dan. But I believe it was olive. I am taking hempseed oil as well tho.
"The ancient recipe for this anointing oil, recorded in the Old Testament book of Exodus (30: 22-23) included over nine pounds of flowering cannabis tops, Hebrew "kaneh-bosm" B, extracted into a hind (about 6.5 litres) of olive oil, along with a variety of other herbs and spices. The ancient chosen ones were literally drenched in this potent cannabis holy oil. " All the bible versions I have seen say olive.
Take care bro and hugs to Mary
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 11:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please forgive me but I have this etymological kick wherein I like to question the shifts in the use of words like Kaneh-bosm and therein come to question if olive was also of hidden meaning...

Consider, Kaneh is cane, or reed, and is diverse enough to be the root of Canon i.e.

" http://www.all-of-grace.net/references/bucks_dictionary/bd_c.htm
13. CANON
A word used to denote the authorised catalogue of the sacred writings. "The Greek word" says Dr. Owen, "which gives rise to the term canonical, seems to be derived from the Hebrew kaneh, which in general signifies any reed whatever, 1 Kings xiv. 15. Isa. xliii. 3. and particularly a reed made into an instrument, wherewith they measured their buildings, containing six cubits in length, Ezek. xl. 7.xliii. 16. and hence indefinitely it is taken for a rule or measure. Besides, it signifies the beam and tongue of a balance. Isa. xlvi. 6. 'they weighed silver on the cane; that is, saith the Targum, 'in the balance.' This also is the primary and proper signification of the Greek word. Hence common, wherein it signifies a moral rule. Aristotle calls the law the rule of the administration; and hence it is that the written word of God being in itself absolutely right, and appointed to be the rule of faith and obedience, is eminently called 'canonical.'"


Consider, bosm is both swelling as in breast and also as in the swelling of the seed in the bosum of the plant, and has strong ties to bough which is also known as a branch i.e.

http://virtual.park.uga.edu/wblake/SONGS/35/35st2bosomanno.html
Bosom, OED definition
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bosom

bosom bu.zm, sb. Forms: 1 bósm, bósum, 2-3 bosm, bosem, Orm. bosemm, 3-6 bosum (in 6 only Sc.), 4-7 bosome, (6 bosym, bowsum, boosome), 4- bosom. [OE. bósm = OFris. bósm, OS. bósom (MDutch boesem, Dutch boezem), OHG. buosam (MHG. buosem, mod.G. busen):-WGer. *bôsm- (not in EGer.). Remoter etymology unknown: it has been conjectured that *bôsmo- stands for *bôh-smo, f. *bôhu-:-OAryan *bhâghu-s arm (bough); the word would then, like the partially synonymous fathom, primarily mean the space embraced by the two arms. ]

http://www.northvegr.org/holy/b.php Holy language lexicon

Bold A. Sax. beald, bald, bold, courageous = Icel. ballr, D. bout, O.H.G. bald, bold.

Bole From Icel. bolr, bulr, Dan. bul, trunk, stem of a tree; probably of same root as bowl, bulge, &c.

Boll G. bolle, a seed-vessel fo flax, D. bol, a round body; same root as bole, a stem.

Bollard Allied to bole, the stem of a tree.

Bosom A. Sax. bósm, D. boezem, G. busen, probably from root of bow, meaning literally a swelling or protruding part."


Bison, Bovine, Ox, all symbols of strength (strong odor included), and fat (oil), and increase(swelling) all tie to the BO root! which is also in a branch symbolic of PEACE....

Now consider, the hempseed as I pointed out above is the most nutricious, is laden with easier to press oil, and is know to have theraputic properties, and a branch from the haoma/soma/marijuana is a peace offering in many ancient religions!


Here are some linguistic links related to olive....

"http://www.etymonline.com/o1etym.htm

oleaginous - 1634, from Fr. oléagineux, from L. oleaginus "of the olive," from olea "olive," alt. of oliva (see olive) by infl. of oleum "oil."
oleander - "rose bay," a poisonous evergreen Mediterranean shrub, c.1400, from M.L. oleander, probably (by infl. of L. olea "olive tree") from L.L. lorandrum, from L. rhododendron (see rhododendron), alt. by infl. of L. laurea "laurel," on resemblance of leaves. This round-about etymology is supported by the Fr. word for it, laurier rose.
oleomargarine - 1873, "butter substitute made from beef fat," from Fr. oléomargarine (1854), from oléine (from L. oleum "oil" + -ine, after glycerine) + margarine. It was regarded as a chemical compound of olein and margarine. Commercial contraction oleo is attested from 1884.
olfactory - 1658, from L. olfactorius, from olfactus, pp. of olfacere "to get the smell of, sniff," from olere "give off a smell of" + facere "make." First element derives from L. odor "smell," with Sabine -l- for -d-.
Olga - fem. proper name, from Rus., probably from Norse Helga, lit. "holy."
oligarchy - 1577, from M.Fr. oligarchie (14c.), from Gk. oligarkhia "government by the few," from oligoi "few, small, little" (of unknown origin) + arkhein "to rule."
Oligocene - 1859, "pertaining to the Tertiary period between the Eocene and the Miocene," coined in Ger. (1854), from Gk. oligos "small, little, few" (of unknown origin) + kainos "recent."
olive - c.1200, "olive tree," from O.Fr. olive, from L. oliva "olive, olive tree," from Gk. elaia "olive tree, olive," probably from the same Aegean language (perhaps Cretan) as Armenian ewi "oil." Applied to the fruit or berry of the tree in Eng. from 1382. Olive branch as a token of peace is from c.1330.
Oliver - masc. personal name, from Fr. Olivier, from M.L.G. Alfihar, lit. "elf-host," from alf "elf" + hari "host, army." Cognate with O.E. name Ælfhere, lit. "elf-army." Form infl. in O.Fr. by olivier "olive tree."


http://www.csp.org/chrestomathy/world_of.html

"The olive became the new botanic attribute of Athena, displacing the plants, like poppy, that served in her former Minoan shamanism. The olive represents the evolution toward the culture of the Olympian age. The olive is a weedy growth, sending out many worthless shoots from its spreading roots; these must be repeatedly pruned away, forcing the wild olive to grow into the valuable fruit-bearing tree. Even its fruit, however, is usable only after further human intervention, either pressing the oil from its olives, or soaking the fruits in brine to wash away their bitterness. This olive tree on the Acropolis was claimed to be one of the first ever to grow in Greece; the olive originally was said to have come from the Indo-European homeland of the Hyperboreans-where, actually, it isn't native. The sanctity of the olive derives from its symbolism as a substitute for the sacred plant of the homeland which it commemorates, Amanita, which similarly in Indo-European tradition is 'pressed,' and called, in fact, in the Hindu tradition 'Soma,' the 'Pressed One,' for that act of pressing. The olive, perhaps was even better than the original Amanita, since it is cultivated and has no psychotropic properties for shamanism: the Indo-European tradition was never at ease with the need to depend upon the body to see the deities. (pages 62-63)"
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Mary is allergic to olive trees makes her break out like poison oak, many others are also affected... Plus there have been recalls because of cancer causing agents in lower grade olive oil, and people with eczema are advised to avoid onointing with olive oil!

"http://www.internethealthlibrary.com/Health-problems/Eczema%20-%20research-olive-oil.htm
Eczema Research
Diet & Lifestyle
Olive oil not recommended for masseurs with longstanding eczema

Contact allergy to olive oil is considered rare; however 20 cases of contact allergy to olive oil were found in a University study in Sweden and this has led to researchers advising massage therapists to avoid the use of olive oil in their treatments if they or their patients have a history of eczema."


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I couldn't help myself, I had to respond to this person.....
SO, I wrote this:
"So, I am not a man with god? And YOU are judge, and jury???
I believe that this in stself is a sin. ONLY God himself may judge the actions of man. Not any one person. It is wrong to praise God through another being other than yourself. Jesus says unto his disciples at one point to not praise god through men, buildings or images, including himself, but to find God's light within and share it with the world.
Isaih 61:3
"To appoint unto them that mourn in Zion, to give unto them beauty for ashes, the oil of joy for mourning, the garment of praise for the spirit of heaviness; that they might be called trees of righteousness, the planting of the LORD, that he might be glorified."
I have one simple question for you...... Are you Catholic or christian?
This is an important question. If you are Catholic, then you are supporting a religion founded on War and Death and a hierarchy where one (mortal and imperfect) Man says what is right and how to praise God. Something that the bible reserves for the individual to do.
Genesis 1:29
"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."
Another passage that is in the KJV of the Holy Bible. Cannabis, as much as people do not want to believe so, IS an herb bearing seed. I do not happen to see a specific means listed by our lord or an instruction manual on how He intended those herbs to be used. I assume that by "meat" he means for our consumption. And, we consume.
Isaih 55:2
"Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness."
Again, the KJV of our holy word. Simply put, enjoy the fruits of your labour in abundance. We labour over cannabis (and many others) plants. I not only grow my own sacremental cannabis, I also grow sunflowers, peppers, strawberries, various vegetables and herbs for my kitchen. The entire process of plant care is relaxing and soothing. It gives one the feeling of creation, while still realising that it is God's hand that has blessed the foods that we grow, and originally created all that is for our consumption.
And my final point for now is simply this....
You have put your faith in a version of religion where it is Expected that you make monetary tithes to support your church. I have yet read of people giving jesus everything they own so they could actually praise him, and not until. Your faith comes from a church that glorifies the Pagan rituals of sacfrifice. In the bible, people were killing brothers and animals to gain the favor of the creator. If god had created all that is, I doubt highly that he would want those things he placed here with the care of a creator, to be destroyed in a barbaric show of gratitude.
I simply burn some plants as sacrifice, not spill Blood.
It's quite funny actually, the same religion looks down their noses at other religions (like Voodoo) for sacrificing animals to their gods. Didn't catholics/Christians do this for many many moons?
I attend a church (Catholic, mostly) and I have read the word of god. Not once does the word of god tell me that the inhalation of a natural plant is a sin. There are 10 commandments and 7 deadly sins. THESE are the laws of God, not the laws of Men. The Laws of men have left us without the things God has provided.
Please respond to this mail as I enjoy discussions with other people and their views. I am open.
Thanks in advance,
Reverend Anthony"
I think that should start some discussions . LOL
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 02, 2004 1:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

hehehe very nice post bro She has answered neither Ferre nor me now.I hope she answers you.
I think her no reply shows us that she was just trying to lay guilt upon us and was never really interested in a debate of the minds and scriptures.
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