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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:39 am    Post subject: Fox news just said.... Reply with quote

Man sets himself ablaze in front of the Whitehouse. (They probably tazed him after they put him out.)

They said he tryed to hand a guard an envelope then set his belonings and himself on fire..He was screaming "Allah Allah"
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

??? wow, any reason given? war protest like in the 60's??
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 16, 2004 3:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont know anymore...Could it be the mass murder of men women and children in Falujah?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 7:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Updated: November 16th, 2004 05:39:57 PM

Terror Case Dealt Blow When Key Witness Sets Himself Afire

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MICHAEL WEISSENSTEIN
Associated Press

NEW YORK (AP) -- The prosecution of a sheik accused of funneling millions of dollars to al-Qaida was roiled Tuesday by news that a man who set himself on fire in front of the White House was a key witness in the case.

Defense attorneys said Mohamed Alanssi is a confidential informant central to the prosecution of Sheik Ali Hassan al-Moayad, whom U.S. authorities consider their biggest catch to date in a campaign to cut off funding for terrorists.

Al-Moayad, a leading member of an Islamic-oriented political party in Yemen, was extradited from Germany last year and is awaiting trial in federal court in Brooklyn. He and his assistant allegedly conspired to provide material support to Osama bin Laden and the Palestinian Islamic group Hamas.

Alanssi sent suicide notes Monday morning to his FBI handler and a Washington Post reporter, complaining about his treatment by the government and threatening that he would burn himself in an "unexpected place."

He arrived at the White House gate later that day with a letter addressed to President Bush, pulled a lighter from his pocket and set his clothing ablaze. He was hospitalized in serious condition Tuesday afternoon.

Federal prosecutors and the FBI declined to comment on the case. But attorneys for al-Moayad and his codefendant, Mohammed Mohsen Yahya Zayed, said Tuesday they believe the government case was seriously weakened by the incident and Alanssi's suicide notes to the FBI and the Post. The newspaper published Alanssi's letters on its Web site.

Alanssi, a 52-year-old Virginia resident, wrote to FBI agent Robert Fuller in New York complaining that the agent had ignored Alanssi's request to visit his ailing wife and family in Yemen. He threatened not to testify against al-Moayad as a result. He wrote the Post that he was afraid the government might "put me in jail and might torture me inside the jail" if he stopped cooperating.

In what the Post described as a series of recent interviews, Alanssi also said that some FBI agents told him he would "be a millionaire" and receive permanent U.S. residency in exchange for his cooperation, the newspaper reported.

Defense lawyers in the al-Moayad case said Alanssi's allegations reveal the tremendous pressure he was under to produce evidence against al-Moayad and his Yemeni assistant, Zayed.

"This was a manufactured crime and Alanssi had a very strong motive to ensnare these people," said Zayed's attorney, Jonathan Marks. "They promised to make him a millionaire on the one hand if he went along with the program and if he didn't they were going to put him in jail and torture him."

Alanssi approached al-Moayad in a mosque in Sana'a, Yemen, and lured him to Germany last year to meet a man he described as a wealthy American, defense lawyers said.

The American was a second FBI informant posing as a former Black Panther who had converted to Islam and wanted to send money to al-Qaida and Hamas, according to transcripts of their recorded conversations.

The American did not speak Arabic and al-Moayad and Zayed spoke no English, so Alanssi translated their conversations, according to court papers.

"He is the key. He is the man who is the contact between the government and my client," said al-Moayad's attorney, Howard Jacobs. "His credibility is at great issue in the case."

Marks wrote in documents filed in federal court on Monday that Alanssi's translations were "inaccurate, incomplete and frequently embellished." He often introduced baseless statements about terror links that a jury could mistakenly attribute to the defendants, Marks said. The defense papers were filed hours after Alanssi set himself on fire in Washington.

Marks asked U.S. District Judge Sterling Johnson to bar the English portions of the recorded conversations from the trial, scheduled to begin in January.

AP Writer Tom Hays contributed to this report from New York.


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PostPosted: Wed Nov 17, 2004 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whatever they tell us now, afterwords... has little impact on me. Just read one of the many reports. This time from The Lancet. And listening to the great Irish singer and composer D. O'RIORDAN in "Zombie", http://cranberriesfans.com/lyrics/nnta/zombie.htm download the song if you wish from any share site. It's about violence. Is it so hard to get through? People had enough. Still they carry on...

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http://www.thelancet.com/journal/vol364/iss9445/full/llan.364.9445.early_online_publication.31137.1

Mortality before and after the 2003 invasion of Iraq: cluster sample survey

Les Roberts, Riyadh Lafta, Richard Garfield, Jamal Khudhairi, Gilbert Burnham

Summary

Background In March, 2003, military forces, mainly from the USA and the UK, invaded Iraq. We did a survey to compare mortality during the period of 14·6 months before the invasion with the 17·8 months after it.

Methods A cluster sample survey was undertaken throughout Iraq during September, 2004. 33 clusters of 30 households each were interviewed about household composition, births, and deaths since January, 2002. In those households reporting deaths, the date, cause, and circumstances of violent deaths were recorded. We assessed the relative risk of death associated with the 2003 invasion and occupation by comparing mortality in the 17·8 months after the invasion with the 14·6-month period preceding it.

Findings The risk of death was estimated to be 2·5-fold (95% CI 1·6-4·2) higher after the invasion when compared with the preinvasion period. Two-thirds of all violent deaths were reported in one cluster in the city of Falluja. If we exclude the Falluja data, the risk of death is 1·5-fold (1·1-2·3) higher after the invasion. We estimate that 98000 more deaths than expected (8000-194000) happened after the invasion outside of Falluja and far more if the outlier Falluja cluster is included. The major causes of death before the invasion were myocardial infarction, cerebrovascular accidents, and other chronic disorders whereas after the invasion violence was the primary cause of death. Violent deaths were widespread, reported in 15 of 33 clusters, and were mainly attributed to coalition forces. Most individuals reportedly killed by coalition forces were women and children. The risk of death from violence in the period after the invasion was 58 times higher (95% CI 8·1-419) than in the period before the war.

Interpretation Making conservative assumptions, we think that about 100000 excess deaths, or more have happened since the 2003 invasion of Iraq. Violence accounted for most of the excess deaths and air strikes from coalition forces accounted for most violent deaths. We have shown that collection of public-health information is possible even during periods of extreme violence. Our results need further verification and should lead to changes to reduce non-combatant deaths from air strikes.



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