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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 7:12 am    Post subject: flying ointment Reply with quote

There are historical references to the flying ointments of Witches going back to "The Canon Episcopi" from approximately 900 C.E.

Possession of flying ointment was a death penalty offense.

One of the ingredients was of course cannabis.

One English recipe for flying ointment called for "Hashish (first quality) -- 5 grams, Hemp flower - a handful".

Another historical recipe calls for "250 grams Indian Hemp (Cannabis Indica)"

The outlawing of cannabis is specifically and exclusively an attack on the ancient Witchcraft religions.

We really need to get across the point that every cannabis trial is really a Witch Trial.
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PostPosted: Sun Mar 25, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a witch trial....a witch hunt.

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The night is black
Without a moon
The air is thick and still
The vigilantes gather on
The lonely torch lit hill

Features distorted in the flickering light
The faces are twisted and grotesque
Silent and stern in the sweltering night
The mob moves like demons possessed
Quiet in conscience, calm in their right
Confident their ways are best

The righteous rise
With burning eyes
Of hatred and ill-will
Madmen fed on fear and lies
To beat and burn and kill

They say there are strangers who threaten us
In our immigrants and infidels
They say there is strangeness too dangerous
In our theaters and bookstore shelves
That those who know what's best for us
Must rise and save us from ourselves

Quick to judge
Quick to anger
Slow to understand
Ignorance and prejudice
And fear walk hand in hand...

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 6:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Before the frenzy of Witch trials in Salem, the first case of a Witch trial in Massachusetts was the 1648 hanging of Margaret Jones in Charlestown, Mass.

Jones was hanged for Witchcraft because she dispensed cannabis and other herbal cures.

The U.S. persecution of cannabis for medical use is extremely old -- it is all about a Christian campaign to kill innocent Witches.

While most modern cannabis users have no idea that cannabis use is unambigiously Witchcraft, the Roman Catholic majority of the U.S. Supreme Court know exactly why their religion has killed cannabis users for Witchcraft for millenia.

I really think we need ot get across to the public that all of the cannabis users in prison are in prison for Witchcraft because the U.S. Supreme Court is majority Roman Catholic and the Roman Catholic religion founded the Witch trials.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt - In your understanding of the subject matter, was Rosa Parks a witch?
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 8:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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prntrkmt - In your understanding of the subject matter, was Rosa Parks a witch?


Rosa Parks was Methodist, a form of Christianity founded by John Wesley in London in 1739.
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 26, 2007 9:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt wrote:
Before the frenzy of Witch trials in Salem, the first case of a Witch trial in Massachusetts was the 1648 hanging of Margaret Jones in Charlestown, Mass.

Jones was hanged for Witchcraft because she dispensed cannabis and other herbal cures.

The U.S. persecution of cannabis for medical use is extremely old -- it is all about a Christian campaign to kill innocent Witches.

While most modern cannabis users have no idea that cannabis use is unambigiously Witchcraft, the Roman Catholic majority of the U.S. Supreme Court know exactly why their religion has killed cannabis users for Witchcraft for millenia.

I really think we need ot get across to the public that all of the cannabis users in prison are in prison for Witchcraft because the U.S. Supreme Court is majority Roman Catholic and the Roman Catholic religion founded the Witch trials.


Not all cannabis use is witchcraft.

I think all cannabis prisoners should be a released because the prohibition of this plant is criminal not the prisoners.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 2:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Slide wrote:
Not all cannabis use is witchcraft.

I think all cannabis prisoners should be a released because the prohibition of this plant is criminal not the prisoners.


I think we can agree that the real criminals are the people who outlawed cannabis and the people who enforce the outlawing of cannabis.

We may not agree on Witchcraft, simply because so many Americans have been exposed to anti-Witch propoganda for so long that they instinctively reject any references to Witchcraft.

The uses of cannabis for medication, for shamanic or religious purposes (including enlightenment), food, and weaving cloth or rope are all unambigiously Witchcraft.

I might add that the modern Roman letter 'H' and the modern mathematical infinity symbol are both ancient Egyptian Witchcraft symbols.

The ancient Egyptian hieroglyph for the sound 'h' was a twisted peice of hemp rope. The crossed itself three times and had a loop at the top (with the two ends separated at the bottom). This hieroglyph was sacred to Seshat and represented the ladder to heaven that cannabis hem provided.

Later this hieroglyph was split in two. The bottom half became the Roman letter 'H' and the top half was turned on its side and became the mathematical symbol for infinity. In Kabbalah, gematria, and other ancient systems for divining the mystical meanings behind words all assigned the concept of the heavens to the Roman letter 'H'.

Cannabis religion is very old and very deep. If we are willing to embrace this ancient wisdom, then there is a huge amount of archaeological evidence to clearly and easily meet even the biased standards of Meyers and prove that cannabis religion is real religion.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 11:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt - I may have to phrase my question differently. From remnants of 15th century taxation records we know that religious dissidents (if they weren´t Jews) were registered members of the Church (or of monasteries), and of course when apostasy has been a crime for a long time everybody is in the books and excommunication is feared.

In your understanding of the subject matter, is an individual who goes forward single-handedly when she sees a spiritual path out of a cultural mess a witch?
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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prntrkmt - I may have to phrase my question differently. From remnants of 15th century taxation records we know that religious dissidents (if they weren´t Jews) were registered members of the Church (or of monasteries), and of course when apostasy has been a crime for a long time everybody is in the books and excommunication is feared.

In your understanding of the subject matter, is an individual who goes forward single-handedly when she sees a spiritual path out of a cultural mess a witch?


I think you underestimate the old religions. We have fairly substantial records of Witchcraft persecution going back to the 500s. These are records from the Christian authorities, and therefore often biased and misleading in their comments about Witchcraft.

If you have interest in this subject, ou may want to read the 1486 publication "Malleus Maleficarum", available for free online at http://www.malleusmaleficarum.org/

On your second question, any plant-based shamanism is Witchcraft. The way you worded your question leaves it unclear as to whether or not your example is shamanic or plant-based.

The way your question is worded makes it more likely that you are describing a transcendental religion (or the kind that Joseph Campbell called "Oriental religion"). The most famous examples of this kind of religion are Buddhism, Taoism, and Confucianism. Note that all three of these religions were founded by "an individual who goes forward single-handedly when [s]he sees a spiritual path out of a cultural mess".

Is it possible to combine different kinds of religion? Yes, it is. It is possible and happened over and over again that people have combined elements of transcendental and shamanic religion.

Any religion that combines elements of other religions is called an "Eclectic" religion.

And note that the Meyers decision is worded in such a way as to automatically exclude any Eclectic religion, even though mainstream Paulinist Christianity was originally an eclectic religion, combining the superstitutious parts of Hellenism with several mystery religions (especially Judaism, Mithraism, and Zoarastrianism). Isn't it ironic that under the Meyers tests, Paul's Christianity would NOT be a legal religion!!!
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 11:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt - Tank you for clarifying the context.

One example I have been mentioning is a case from the peak of the persecution in the late 1400s (when the Caliphate stood at the Pyrenees and was expanding northwards into the Balkans - internal repression correlates with external paranoia) which is documented rather well because rivaling Princebishops were struggling over their responsibilities, the other one is from the last Witch Trial in the Frankish heartlands, when a 70 year old Norbertine Nun was burned on the stake on May 23, 1749 after "a raid of her cell produced flying ointment, magic roots and herbs, as well as a golden costume she was using for her usual witch dance and for meetings." (Hans Georg Wunderlich, 1974)

I am well aware that Shamanic traditions are reaching back much further, we must assume that these individuals when they tried to reach back essentially faced similiar difficulties as we do today, and the root cause of the situation is that Europe before Christianity was ruled by aristocracy. A culture traditionally ruled by a bunch of thugs it just never managed to throw off encountered a religion originating from a loner dissident who had faced an entire empire that was determined to quench his tribe, and the resulting contradictions created the millennium that we these days have come to know as the Dark Age.

Once it is taken into account that the Christianisation of Europe by proxy of aristocracy, though its seemlingy paradox historical contribution to the conditions of the possibility for the abolition of aristocracy once and for all, was a process that caused immense collateral damage for all involved, the question is no longer whether something was lost on that path, but at which point and in which way this culture lost the Shamanic access to the teacher plants that archeologists have been able to reconstruct from traces of the tribes who lived in this part of the world in the millennias before us. The question is no longer whether to indulge in eclecticism, but whether the pieces are put together in a pattern that truly serves reconstruction.

Now how was the Cannabis lost in Europe? There are no records of some Drug Czar or something kicking off a campaign against it out of the blue, not even indications or rumors that such a memory would have been purged, so how could such a loss happen? One possible explanation would be that (aristocratic?) Shamans of that time might have perceived it as some kind of tactical advantage to use Cannabis with a figleaf, i.e. without naming it as what it is, maybe because they thought if everybody can use it themselves they would be loosing something, and that decision backfired.
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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prntrkmt - Tank you for clarifying the context.

One example I have been mentioning is a case from the peak of the persecution in the late 1400s (when the Caliphate stood at the Pyrenees and was expanding northwards into the Balkans - internal repression correlates with external paranoia) which is documented rather well because rivaling Princebishops were struggling over their responsibilities, the other one is from the last Witch Trial in the Frankish heartlands, when a 70 year old Norbertine Nun was burned on the stake on May 23, 1749 after "a raid of her cell produced flying ointment, magic roots and herbs, as well as a golden costume she was using for her usual witch dance and for meetings." (Hans Georg Wunderlich, 1974)

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Now how was the Cannabis lost in Europe? There are no records of some Drug Czar or something kicking off a campaign against it out of the blue, not even indications or rumors that such a memory would have been purged, so how could such a loss happen? One possible explanation would be that (aristocratic?) Shamans of that time might have perceived it as some kind of tactical advantage to use Cannabis with a figleaf, i.e. without naming it as what it is, maybe because they thought if everybody can use it themselves they would be loosing something, and that decision backfired.


There was no secret about what the Christian authorities were looking for. This is somewhat similar to modern charges of "driving under the influence" or "driving while intoxicated". While some state DUI or DWI laws can include a wide variety of substances, in almost all cases it ihat the charge is about alcohol, even though there is no direct mention of the word alcohol.

Thse who are aware of the context of the time, know that the charge of "a raid of her cell produced flying ointment, magic roots and herbs," is a charge of a variety of substances, most importantly cannabis.

Flying ointments almost always included cannabis or some cannabis derivative (such as hashish). There is no confusion in the charge you quote if you actually know how flying ointment was made and used.

Similarly, "magic roots and herbs", while it can refer to literally thousands of substances, was clearly understood in the context of the time to mean mandrake roots, cannabis buds, and rose petals.

Yes, the Roman Catholic Church considered rose petals and rose hips to be as "bad" as cannabis. The Popes outlawed possession of roses with the death penalty BEFORE they outlawed the possession of cannabis with the death penalty.

And if you look a little further you will find that the Roman Catholic Church outlawed cunnilingus (and oral sex in general) because of the pagan practice of Morning Ritual. Morning Ritual was performed to worship and honor Bast or Isis (or related regional Goddesses, such as Easter). The woman and her partner (male or female) would get high on cannabis and engage in cunnilingus with the intent of orgasm occuring at the moment of sunrise (Bast, Isis, and Easter are all Goddesses of the rising sun).

A lack of knowledge of the context of the time can make it very difficult to identify cannabis from the writings of the time.

As far as the kicking off of the campaign, the original source was in 1258 when Pope Alexander IV issued a papal bull outlawing Witchcraft, with the campaign kicking into high gear with the 1468 publication of "Maaleus Maleficarum" (or "Witches' Hammer") by the Dominican monks Jakob Sprenger and Heinrich Kramer, Chief Inquisitors for Germany.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 5:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt - The writer from which I quoted this Decretum uses it as an entry point to speculate about secale cornutum, boletus erothrypus, boletus queletii, boletus luridus, amanita muscaria as well as bufotenin from toads and modern LSD, but fails to make any mentioning of cannabis sativa and atropa belladonna.

A burning stake produces a smokescreen, which is all we get to see from a distance. The only way to reconstruct what may have been thrown into the fire of a specific case is to find out what has been part of the culture all along. If a plant is freely growing now, or can be found in graves older than the Christianisation, it is reasonable to assume that it has been present as a subculture in the meantime as well.

For the Catholic Church teachings you mentioned, can you please quote references?
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nachtschattenreich wrote:
For the Catholic Church teachings you mentioned, can you please quote references?


I don't know if Papal Bulls are available on line (although it would be very useful if they were).

One source is the Ontario Consultants on Religious Tolerance:

http://www.religioustolerance.org/wic_burn2.htm
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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 2:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nachtschattenreich wrote:
prntrkmt - The writer from which I quoted this Decretum uses it as an entry point to speculate about secale cornutum, boletus erothrypus, boletus queletii, boletus luridus, amanita muscaria as well as bufotenin from toads and modern LSD, but fails to make any mentioning of cannabis sativa and atropa belladonna.


Mushroom use (and other related materials, such as certain toads) was extremely common in Medieval Europe.

While it is true that Witches also used mushrooms, the use of mushrooms was so widespread that it wasn't associated with Witchcraft. In more recent times, as use of mushrooms and similar substances dropped, there became a stronger association with Witches, who continued to use these substances, but the assocaition with Witchcraft is only in the last 400 years or so.

You will find that use of mushrooms was pervasive in Christianity starting during the Roman Empire and continuing throughout the Medieval Ages. Almost all Christian church art from that period is dominated with mushroom images, especially amanita.

The modern halo shown on Jesus, the apostles, the saints, and the angels is actually derived from amanita images in the Christian artwork of the Roman Empire, Byzantine Empire, and Medieval Europe. Throughout these earlier periods, Christian holiness was shown by placing the amanita mushroom cap on the head of the holy person or being. When mushroom use dropped off in Christianity a few hundred years ago, the association was lost and artwork transformed into the halo of light that is common in modern Christian artwork.

As it turns out, Jack Herer (author of "The Emperor Wears No Clothes" and proponent of the multitude of uses of cannabis hemp) has been working on an authorative book on the relationship between amanita and religion (especially Christianity). He's been writing that book for the last several years and keeps saying he is "almost finished".

You may want to watch for Jack's book when it comes out.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007 6:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Natural amanita growing places are a secret to be passed on from one generation to another.

You´re lucky if you know one where you can pluck amanitas to dry them on the fire, and you´re even luckier if you know one where you can eat them on the spot.

Amanita is not prohibited, but disreputed, and every autumn environmentalist groups have to put out press releases admonishing strollers not to trample them.
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