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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 2:59 pm    Post subject: Cannabis - Hemp - Marijuana and The Bible Reply with quote

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"And God said, Behold, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yeilding seed, and the fruit tree yeilding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so."


(Genesis 1:11)
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"And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yeilding seed after his kind,and the tree yeilding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good."

(Genesis 1:12)
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"And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat."

(Genesis 1:29)


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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Amen Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Fri May 09, 2003 8:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hear what God has to say in the Bible about the laws man has made against those who smoke cannabis:

Woe to those who make unjust laws, to those who issue oppressive decrees, to deprive the poor of their rights and withhold justice from the oppressed of my people, making widows their prey and robbing the fatherless.
Isaiah 10:1-2

These politicians will pay at judgement day folks. I have no doubt of that. God dont say "Woe to......" without meaning it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 17, 2003 6:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess the Christian Coalition, and the moral majority , forgot about those scriptures. wink
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

11:19:3

Rev. Ferre & Drrock,

Add this info to Your original post:

Along with Gen. 1:11-12 & 29; add:

Gen. 1:30, “and to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; and it was so.”

Now realize that what We are quoting, is literally and not by accident, written on the very 1st page of the Bible. People don’t even have to remember the verses to know where to go to read this, even to others… it’s the very 1st page.

Then; consider the rest of Gen. 1; which is actually on the 2nd page of My Bible, but very relevant…

Gen. 1:31, “God saw all that He had made, and behold, it was very good. And there was evening and there was morning, the sixth day.”

http://www.biblegateway.org/bible?passage=GEN+1&language=english&version=NASB

Also for consistency I am adding Gen. 1:11-12 & 29, in the New American Standard Bible’s version.

Gen. 1:11-12; “Then God said, "Let the earth sprout vegetation, plants yielding seed, and fruit trees on the earth bearing fruit after their kind with seed in them"; and it was so.
12 The earth brought forth vegetation, plants yielding seed after their kind, and trees bearing fruit with seed in them, after their kind; and God saw that it was good.”

Gen. 1:29, “Then God said, "Behold, I have given you every plant yielding seed that is on the surface of all the earth, and every tree which has fruit yielding seed; it shall be food for you;”

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*The prohibition of cannabis; denial of God’s claim that He created and gave Us, all the green plants indicating they were all good; is perhaps the original living sin.

* The prohibition of cannabis is the Biblical root of perhaps all problems We face today.

*Notice that there is the use of the word meat in the KJV and the word food is used in the NASB. When We read 1 Timothy 4:1-5; it is always the same word used, including in other versions of the Bible… those words always match. 1 Tim. 4:1-5, subtitled: “Apostasy” is thought to have the only Biblical restriction placed on cannabis; seems to indicate Paul warned Us about cannabis prohibition in advance; and goes further and further, in that among other things it tells Us who are the type of people that would partake in and support cannabis prohibition, namely: “some (men) will fall away from the faith, paying attention to deceitful spirits and doctrines of demons,…” http://www.biblegateway.org/bible?passage=1TIM+4&language=english&version=NASB

When We can tell that things are not progressing in a manner that helps produce the will of Christ God Our Father, We sense there is a need to do more… Biblically. One thing that must be done is to in essence start over… and that would mean starting on the very 1st page of the Bible… put Your finger on those passages; and walk in that truth; and don’t take Your finger off that truth; for anyone; and do not continue on, with anyone who would separate You from that truth.


God did in fact create all the plants saying they were all very good.

Anyone that would claim to be a Christian yet deny this is failing the litmus test.

I remember the bumper stickers a bunch of years back:

Those are disobedient Christians.

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What does "meat" mean? like someone posted God gave us every herb yeilding seed for meat

i guess eating weed and smoking weed are the same thing, but theyre are plenty of poisonous/dangerous plants out there and if u think its all good u could go eat a poisonous mushroom or smoke some poison oak...

im still a little lost thanks for any response

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 16, 2003 11:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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meat ( P ) Pronunciation Key (mt)
n.
The edible flesh of animals, especially that of mammals as opposed to that of fish or poultry.
The edible part, as of a piece of fruit or a nut.
The essence, substance, or gist: the meat of the editorial.
Slang. Something that one enjoys or excels in; a forte: Tennis is his meat.
Nourishment; food: “Love is not all: it is not meat nor drink” (Edna St. Vincent Millay).
Vulgar Slang.
The human body regarded as an object of sexual desire.
The genitals.

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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 12:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to share this.

http://www.olywa.net/when/bible08.html

PROHIBITION AND THE BIBLE - 8

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I have heard many prohibitionists refer to it as the "devil weed." I never saw anything in the Bible that implied that the devil had any power of creation. However, the major evidence that I have seen that perhaps Satin did have the power to create is that most of the politicians appear to be created in his own image!

The Lord created this plant for the benefit of those, whom he created in his own image! It is an excellent food source, hemp seed oil containing the proper combination of essential fatty acids for human health, and the seeds being most rich in usable vegetable proteins. Its fibers created the best natural fibers available to clothe people and provided a source of transportation for earlier man, by providing very important materials for sailing ships. Now, this plant is still capable of providing for man's transportation needs, because the diesel engine was designed to run on hemp seed oil and the remainder of the plant can be converted by pyrolysis into ethanol or methanol to provide energy for gasoline powered engines! This energy would be a non-polluting source because any exhaust emissions would be re-absorbed from the atmosphere by the following years' crops! It provides an aid to man's written communication with one another, by being the best source of pulp for paper making. It also can be used to create construction materials, that can be substituted for wood, and can produce plastic materials without the need for petrochemicals. If used for these things, we would not need to destroy the forests that our Lord created or have such a demand for the destructive use of petroleum products!

A logical reason for the Lord to have given it psychoactive qualities, is that it makes one feel closer to God. It is an aid to communication with the Lord. The reason that people like to be "high" because it feels good to be closer to God. Most are not be aware however, that God is trying to communicate with them however, and just enjoy the high. That is why it is a sacrament to the Ethiopian Zion Coptic Church. Western churches are all an outgrowth of the Roman Empire however, and wine was the accepted intoxicant there, so they made wine a sacrament for communion. They considered uses of natural substances to be witchcraft, and public policy still suffers as a consequence.
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 17, 2003 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's all in the interpretation.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:35 am    Post subject: poisonous plants Reply with quote

Hey Timid Goat, I believe that I can answer your questions....

you wrote: "What does "meat" mean? like someone posted God gave us every herb yeilding seed for meat

i guess eating weed and smoking weed are the same thing, but theyre are plenty of poisonous/dangerous plants out there and if u think its all good u could go eat a poisonous mushroom or smoke some poison oak...

im still a little lost thanks for any response"

To answer your first question, meat is also translated as food. So every herb yielding seed is given to us for food.

Your second question requires a tiny bit of biblical quoting. You were a little apprehensive about that verse that all herbs were given to us for food, because some are poisonous. But look to the New Testament, what the apostles of Christ say....that those who are given the Holy Spirit.....in other words, those who are not under the curse which was not in effect in the beginning, in those genesis passages, cannot be harmed by eating anything. " And he said unto them, Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature.
16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that believe; In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.
19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.
20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen." (Mark 16:15-20)

So the signs following the believers include that if they consume any deadly thing it will not hurt them. Couple this with the verses in genesis, before the fall, where God gives man every herb bearing seed for food, and you have it in its entirety. I'm not saying to go look for deadly poisonous things and eat them. Because the scriptures also say, "Thou shalt not put the Lord thy God to the test." But what I am saying is that the scripture stands, all herbs bearing seed are given to us to consume whatever we wish, and if we have faith, even those things that are deadly poisonous will not harm us. Peace.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 6:41 am    Post subject: Nice post bro Reply with quote

claps dance kewlsmilie canni Hey hey Hey hydro
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 26, 2003 11:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to add to what hydrosmoke said about meat and food.

On the very 1st page it says food or meat etc. depending on the version.

But notice that what ever word it uses it always matches what is used in 1 Timothy 4:1-4. So every version always the same word in both verses.

Example:

NASB = it shall be food for you;
30 and (3Cool to every beast of the earth and to every bird of the sky and to every thing that moves on the earth which has life, I have given every green plant for food"; on the very 1st page

&

KJV = it shall be for meat.
30 And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat:

Then 1 Tim. 4:1-5

NASB = men who (6) forbid marriage and advocate (7) abstaining from foods which (Cool God has created to be (9) gratefully shared in by those who believe and know the truth.

KJV = Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and know the truth.

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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 4:12 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh sweet sweet green
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PostPosted: Sat May 29, 2004 12:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Personally, I think you have all read too much into the meaning of the word. Whether it's "meat" or "food", either way, it's a substance for consumption. Now, whether consumption means smoking, vaporizing, or just plain old eating, it doesn't really specify a specific method for this. So, as long as we are taking the herbs into our system (consumption) then we are still walking within the confines mandated by our Lord. And even today, Zoomers or even Peyote, are poisonous substances which we consume without dying to achieve a higher state of conciousness.
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