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PostPosted: Wed Oct 01, 2003 12:42 pm    Post subject: Cannabis and driving? Reply with quote

The White House Office of National Drug Control Policy (ONDCP) and certain Wisconsin
legislators have launched a new crusade against "drugged driving," with a heavy
emphasis on marijuana. This crusade is largely based on scientific misinformation, and
it could lead to the enactment of bad laws.

ONDCP has several slick television commercials on the subject. One shows dramatic auto
accidents and two crash test dummies passing a jpint while a serious voice says, "In a
recent study, one in three reckless drivers tested positive for marijuana." Note the
careful phrasing. The idea is to make viewers think that marijuana caused the reckless
driving, without really saying that it did.

Why would ONDCP be so coy? The answer lies in the actual data regarding marijuana's
effects on driving,

I study the effects of drugs and teach classes in the science of illicit substances, so
I know this field. The plain fact is that marijuana does not cause reckless driving.
Large studies of accidents show that drivers who test positive for marijuana (and ONLY
marijuana -- i.e., people who haven't also been drinking or taking other intoxicating
drugs) cause fewer crashes than people who haven't had any drugs at all.

That's right, people "high" on marijuana cause fewer crashes than those who are
completely sober. The findings seemed impossible to explain. It was a puzzle that made
no sense.


A bright and talented researcher in the Netherlands named Robbe recently solved that
puzzle. He got experienced marijuana users stoned and had them drive around the streets
of Holland. But these guys were no dummies. They drove slower, increased the distance
between their cars and the cars in front of them, and never tried to pass other cars.
Folks who smoked a placebo (a non-intoxicating substance made to look and smell like
marijuana) drove as they usually did. Alcohol, alone or in combination with marijuana,
wrecked driving completely.

Robbe's results helped explain the accident studies. People who used marijuana and only
marijuana were compensating for the drug's effects by driving more carefully. Nobody
should drive high, but we can all take a lesson from these people who did: slow down,
leave space between your car and the next, and don't try to pass. Unlike alcohol, which
makes people behave recklessly, marijuana users tend to be aware that they are impaired
and compensate with some success.

But what about the ONDCP's claim that one in three reckless drivers tested positive for
marijuana?

It's not quite a lie, but it's deliberately misleading. The Drug Czar's no dummy. He
wants to scare people, and he knows the complete facts won't do it. Instead he throws
out scary but incomplete and misleading statistics --- and hopes people won't question
them. Yes, one in three reckless drivers tested positive for marijuana in a urine
screen, but we don't know how many of them had alcohol, antihistamines, cocaine, or any
number of other drugs in their systems.

Legislators need to ask for the complete facts behind the scare stories before they
start passing new laws based on misinformation.

There are cheaper, easier ways to get impaired drivers off the road. Roadside sobriety
tests are reliable, inexpensive, and valid indicators of impaired driving.
Law-enforcement officers can learn to administer these tests quickly and easily. Unlike
expensive blood tests, which can only identify a few drugs, roadside sobriety tests can
detect any kind of drug impairment that might hurt driving. People who've had too many
antihistamines can't drive well. Roadside sobriety tests would keep them off the road.
A blood test would let them drive on by.

Don't be a dummy. Insist on roadside sobriety tests instead of expensive, misleading
blood tests.

Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003
From: "D. Paul Stanford" stanford@crrh.org
Subject: 006 Mitch Earleywine: Marijuana Does Not Cause Reckless Driving
Pubdate: Fri, 26 Sep 2003
Source: DrugSense Weekly
Website: http://www.drugsense.org/current.htm
Author: Mitch Earleywine, Ph.D.
Note: Mitch Earleywine, Ph.D., is an associate professor of psychology at the
University of Southern California and author of "Understanding Marijuana" (Oxford
University Press, 2002).

Crancer Study, Washington Department of Motor Vehicles
"Simulated driving scores for subjects experiencing a normal social "high" and the same
subjects under control conditions are not significantly different. However, there are
significantly more errors for alcohol intoxicated than for control subjects"

U.S. Department of Transportation, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration
(DOT HS 808 078), Final Report, November 1993:
"THC's adverse effects on driving performance appear relatively small"

Cannabis/Driving Studies

Australia: No Proof Cannabis Put Drivers At Risk (2001)
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v01/n1849/a09.html

UK: Cannabis May Make You A Safer Driver (2000)
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v00/n1161/a02.html

University Of Toronto Study Shows Marijuana Not A Factor In Driving Accidents (1999)
http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases\1999\03\990325110700.htm

Australia: Cannabis Crash Risk Less: Study (1998)
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v98/n945/a08.html

Australia: Study Goes to Pot (1998)
http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v98/n947/a06.html

What No One Wants to Know About Marijuana by Dr. Andrew Weil
http://boards.marihemp.com/boards/msg7x4392.shtml

"a-motivation [is] a cause of heavy marijuana smoking rather than the reverse"
Dr. Andrew Weil (Rubin & Comitas Ganja in Jamaica, 1975)

What No One Wants to Know About Marijuana
http://deoxy.org/pdfa/marijuana.htm
>From The Natural Mind by Dr. Andrew Weil
(last half of chapter four pg. 86-97)

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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 6:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really don't like driving when I'm stoned, and try not to.
But sometimes, I've had to, and it's the one time when paranoia kicks in big time. So I'm driving along, aware that the road is unfurling like a computer game or something, and my head is going 'Aaaah! I'm stoned! I'm driving and I'm stoned', and I drive way more carefully than usual.
I know it's wrong to drive when stoned, but maybe if we all did, there wouldn't be any accidents. Shocked
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 02, 2003 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did my driving tests for my licence while stoned, have nearly always been driving stoned and did build up a 80% discount with my car insurance for more then 20 years of safe driving.
I know for sure it's not dangerous to drive stoned. stinky

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