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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:37 pm    Post subject: Alcohol shrinks the Brain Reply with quote

I see this today, I always knew the hang over meant something, I know you are susposed to drink the same amount of water as alcohol to stop the hang over, but maybe the hang over is because your brain has dehydrated and shrunk.


Alcohol 'shrinks brain volume'

Brain volume may decrease in people who drink heavy amounts of alcohol over long periods of time, according to new research.

US researchers from Wellington College found that the more people drink on a regular basis, the lower their brain volume.

They examined brain scans of 1,839 people aged between 34 and 88, separated into groups ranging from non drinkers to heavy drinkers, who consumed more than 14 alcoholic drinks per week.

The study found that people who had more than 14 drinks per week had an average 1.6 percent reduction in the ratio of brain volume to skull size compared to people who did not drink.

"Research has shown that there is a beneficial effect of alcohol in reducing incidence of cardiovascular disease in people who consume low to moderate amounts of alcohol," said study author Carol Ann Paul.

"However, this study found that greater alcohol consumption was negatively correlated with brain volume."
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who cares? We humans only use 20% of our braincapacity anyway. Laughing
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 10:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yer, but its the 20% its shrinking. Very Happy and I thought it was only 10% or is that just me.
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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Funny how we humans allways worry about the health risks of what we consume, while at the end it's living itself that kills us all.

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PostPosted: Thu May 03, 2007 11:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As soon as we are born, we are dying Crying or Very sad

We are alright Ferre, we just expand it the next day. Cool
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PostPosted: Fri May 04, 2007 2:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Alcohol to me is a drug. I don't take drugs unless the doc prescribes them and the are ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first settlers of the US used firewater to make addicts out of the American Indians. Alcohol has been a major part of the decimation of these ancient tribes, and I find it quite sad honestly. It is also a truly addictive substance to the point of being deadly to many people making moderate use a difficult proposition.

To top that off, it goes back to what I said about people being incomplete. Without cannabis to help complete their being and their connection to everything around them, as well as to help ease their pains and stresses, many people will turn to dangerous drugs like this and use them daily in hopes of fulfilling that void.

This is why I feel it's so extremely important to spread the message of cannabis spirituality to the whole world. We need to get back to our roots, get our hands back in the dirt and get back to nurturing cannabis and allowing it to do the same for us. Our spiritual, mental, and physical well being demands it.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scientists have to admit that they have rather little clue how things that happen with the brain relate to things that happen in the brain.

I base my view of Alcohol on the effects I see it has to the behaviour of its users. In my youth, I had my period where I was using huge amounts of Alcohol day after day, but nowadays I am happy with small amounts once in a while.

Alcohol can bring out the worst in man. It have seen Alcohol users deal out aggression in the worst possible manner, sometimes when they were lacking their Alcohol even more than when they were having it. But then again, all that can happen without Alcohol as well. There are entire cultures that prohibit Alcohol, and it hasn´t made them one bit more human.

IMHO, one of the worst effects of Alcohol is that it makes its users think that Cannabis worked just the same way, in terms of addiction and withdrawal symptoms. They couldn´t be any further off the truth, but it´s projections like these that make it so difficult to deal with them.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rev. Adam wrote:
Alcohol to me is a drug. I don't take drugs unless the doc prescribes them and the are ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first settlers of the US used firewater to make addicts out of the American Indians. Alcohol has been a major part of the decimation of these ancient tribes, and I find it quite sad honestly. It is also a truly addictive substance to the point of being deadly to many people making moderate use a difficult proposition.


It is absurd to claim that native Americans never figured out how to make alcohol on their own. That's part of the "heathen savage" idea.

Native Americans had fairly advanced societies for the time. Lack of gunpowder was the fatal flaw.

The Algonquin nation was living in plank wood houses at a time when the European Christian settlers were living in log cabins.

The agricultural methods of the native Americans were more sophisiticated than those of the European Christians. That's why the native Americans were teaching the Europeans how to grow food at the "first thanksgiving dinner".

Even the idea for a constitution came from the Algonquin nation.

Making alcohol is a very simple technology. Even elephants in Africa know how to ferment frutis and make alcohol.

The claim that the native Americans were so stupid that they didn't know how to make alcohol is as absurd as the claim that native Americans were so stupid they didn't know where they were until Columbus "discovered" their land.
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PostPosted: Sat May 05, 2007 6:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ferre wrote:
Who cares? We humans only use 20% of our braincapacity anyway. Laughing


The claim that humans only use 10% of their brain power comes from a misunderstanding of a classic early experiment in brain activity.

In the 1950s the ability to measure brain activity was exceedingly crude.

But scientists started to realize that when a person thinks at a high level, the total brain activity actually goes down and becomes more focused in particular areas of the brain. When a person is having trouble thinking, the total brain activity greatly goes up, with brain activity scattered throughout the brain.

The scientists reported that focused thought used about 10% of the brain (a number later shown to be inaccurate).

This was misinterpretted by popular media into the belief that the common person only uses 10% of their brain power and the rest of the brain power is wasted.

I might also add that for numerous vitally important kinds of brain activity (including creative thought, language, and motor skills) cannabis helps the brain build more efficient neural networks and better synapse pathways.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

prntrkmt wrote:
Rev. Adam wrote:
Alcohol to me is a drug. I don't take drugs unless the doc prescribes them and the are ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first settlers of the US used firewater to make addicts out of the American Indians. Alcohol has been a major part of the decimation of these ancient tribes, and I find it quite sad honestly. It is also a truly addictive substance to the point of being deadly to many people making moderate use a difficult proposition.


It is absurd to claim that native Americans never figured out how to make alcohol on their own. That's part of the "heathen savage" idea.

Native Americans had fairly advanced societies for the time. Lack of gunpowder was the fatal flaw.

The Algonquin nation was living in plank wood houses at a time when the European Christian settlers were living in log cabins.

The agricultural methods of the native Americans were more sophisiticated than those of the European Christians. That's why the native Americans were teaching the Europeans how to grow food at the "first thanksgiving dinner".

Even the idea for a constitution came from the Algonquin nation.

Making alcohol is a very simple technology. Even elephants in Africa know how to ferment frutis and make alcohol.

The claim that the native Americans were so stupid that they didn't know how to make alcohol is as absurd as the claim that native Americans were so stupid they didn't know where they were until Columbus "discovered" their land.
http://ctct.essortment.com/nativeamerican_ragq.htm

I never said the native americans were stupid. I am very much related to them in my religious beliefs and have studied them quite a bit. I am simply saying that alcohol lead to their demise.

I wouldn't say they were too stupid to make alcohol. Maybe they had before white man came along, but they weren't using it at that time.

What they were was unprepared for it's addictive and destructive nature. The effects of alcohol on the native americans is still being felt across the reservations today. Alcohol and gambling have taken over where herding buffalo and growing maze once reined.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 2:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Inuit people are a good example:

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When they meet an outsider, the first thing the Inuit do is ask whether you have any cigarettes or alcohol. Have you got anything to sell or give away? They are a people who have no desire to talk. Talking, for them, is a waste of effort.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:SOXKu5eYMzEJ:findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1310/is_1994_July-August/ai_16060603+how+inuit+got+alcohol&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=8&gl=us&client=firefox-a

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WWII and the Cold War made Arctic Canada strategically important for the first time, and, thanks to the development of modern aircraft, accessible year-round. The construction of airbases and radar stations in the 1940s and 50s brought more intensive contacts with European society, particularly in the form of public education, which instilled and enforced foreign values disdainful of the traditional structure of Inuit society. Most damaging of all, the Inuit gained access to alcohol and southern drugs, whose destructive impact was extraordinary because Inuit society had no traditions or mechanisms for responding to it.
http://209.85.165.104/search?q=cache:P13fNUsVfPkJ:www.crystalinks.com/inuit.html+inuit+alcohol&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=2&gl=us&client=firefox-a
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rev. Adam wrote:
prntrkmt wrote:
Rev. Adam wrote:
Alcohol to me is a drug. I don't take drugs unless the doc prescribes them and the are ABSOLUTELY necessary. The first settlers of the US used firewater to make addicts out of the American Indians. Alcohol has been a major part of the decimation of these ancient tribes, and I find it quite sad honestly. It is also a truly addictive substance to the point of being deadly to many people making moderate use a difficult proposition.


It is absurd to claim that native Americans never figured out how to make alcohol on their own. That's part of the "heathen savage" idea.

Native Americans had fairly advanced societies for the time. Lack of gunpowder was the fatal flaw.

The Algonquin nation was living in plank wood houses at a time when the European Christian settlers were living in log cabins.

The agricultural methods of the native Americans were more sophisiticated than those of the European Christians. That's why the native Americans were teaching the Europeans how to grow food at the "first thanksgiving dinner".

Even the idea for a constitution came from the Algonquin nation.

Making alcohol is a very simple technology. Even elephants in Africa know how to ferment frutis and make alcohol.

The claim that the native Americans were so stupid that they didn't know how to make alcohol is as absurd as the claim that native Americans were so stupid they didn't know where they were until Columbus "discovered" their land.
http://ctct.essortment.com/nativeamerican_ragq.htm

I never said the native americans were stupid. I am very much related to them in my religious beliefs and have studied them quite a bit. I am simply saying that alcohol lead to their demise.

I wouldn't say they were too stupid to make alcohol. Maybe they had before white man came along, but they weren't using it at that time.

What they were was unprepared for it's addictive and destructive nature. The effects of alcohol on the native americans is still being felt across the reservations today. Alcohol and gambling have taken over where herding buffalo and growing maze once reined.


Please do NOT take any of the following information as a personal attack. I am glad that you are studying native American religious beliefs. The following information hopefully will help you better understand the European Christian invasion.

Native Americans made alcohol long before any Europeans arrived (even before the Vikings). There is firm archaeological evidence that native Americans were drinking agave pulque (3-5% alcohol) by 900 B.C.E.

In many native American societies alcohol was reserved for the elderly.

It is true that European Christians upset the balance of native American society by pushing alcohol on the young, but the European Christians did this to themselves as well. There were battles in the French and Indian Wars and in the American Revolution where the British, American, and French soldiers were so drunk that neither side could shoot straight.

It is also true that the ravages of reservation life caused many native Americans to turn to alcohol -- but this is NOT because of some inherent flaw in native American character or biology nor a flaw in native American society, but rather the diretc and inevitable result of the great wrongs and suffering caused by the U.S. government.

Have you ever lived on a reservation? Are you aware of the depth of poverty that is intentionally caused by the U.S. government (usually in direct violation of treaty obligations)? Just as alcohol abuse is common among the urban poor (because of the ravages of extreme poverty), it is common on most reservations. This is a reflection of poverty, NOT a matter of native Americans being "unprepared for its addictive and destructive nature".

I might add that the public image of "gambling rich Indians" is a myth. While there are huge amounts of cash brought in by native American casinos in total, almost all of that cash (more than 97%) is earned by just THREE native American casinos out of all of native Americna casinos combined (the three that happen to be in major white urban areas).

No native American nation EVER herded buffalo. Herding simply doesn't work for the American bison. Further, the lands on which the bison originally roamed have been usurped by white European Christian farms, factories, towns, cities, and other Western settlements. The land was stolen. The last major remnant of the American bison is found in national parks -- where the bison still ROAM -- not HERDED.

Maize is a native of Mexico. It was spread throughout south-western North America by 3,000 years B.P. For a long time there was little overlap between the range of maize and the range of bison.

The idea that native Americans are inherently susceptible to alcohol abuse is a blatant racist lie to move blame for the horrendous poverty on native Americna reservations from the policies of the U.S. government to the victims of those policies.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Very good post. I don't think there's any attack in it? I admit, I made a few statements that don't add up. They didn't herd buffalo, they hunted them. Also, I should have just said they "farmed the land" instead of farming maize, but this they did do as well. I totally understand how impoverished the reservations are, but there was a definite push to get the natives addicted to alcohol. Alcohol and poverty I guess go hand in hand as tools of destruction.

Genocide and racism has never stopped on this planet for one moment in history.

Thanks for the informative post.
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PostPosted: Sun May 06, 2007 8:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam,

Sorry I have to disagree with your second statement, the first was more true. They did herd Buffalo, but they didn't fence the animals in, they let them graze all year.[/quote]
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Is it just this computer screen, or does anyone else find it painful to read this thread, because some extra long links require seesaw scrolling for every single line of text?

If you have long links, please put them into bbCode tags, or use a service like http://www.tinyurl.com/ to make a shorter link.
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