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Should we discourage the use of words like marijuana, pot, reefer etc.?
Yes! Strongly
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 37%  [ 6 ]
Yes! Gently
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 31%  [ 5 ]
I don't care
6%
 6%  [ 1 ]
I don't understand the question
0%
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Call it marijuana, it freaks the judge out!
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Other, please post explanation
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 18%  [ 3 ]
Total Votes : 16

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 05, 2007 5:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

While we are on terminology, let me introduce a few words:

The ancient Egyptian word for cannabis is "shem-shem-tu", typically written sm-sm-t by Egyptologists.

The entirety of the priesthood was called the "Wenwet".

The "Rakhet" (meaning "knowing one") were older women who assisted the priesthood. They were not actually members of the priesthood. These were women who were past child bearing age and were known for their great wisdom and their ability to perform Witchcraft.

The first level of the priesthood was the "Wab" ("Wabet" for female), meaning "pure". They were given the tasks of cleaning and purifying the temple.

The next level of the priesthood was the "It", meaning father. Originally this title appeared for the highest ranking male priest, but quickly became a common low level title.

The words for common priest and priestess are "Hem" (priest) and "Hemet" (priestess). These were the male and female form of the word meaning servant. The plural is "Hmw".

The word for the musicians and dancers of the temple was "Hnr" (typically written in English as "Hener").

The "Sem" priests were the mortuary priests who prepared mummies.

The word "Herh-Heb" (male) and "Herh-Hebet" (female), also known as "Kher-Heb", indicated the Lector Priest or Priestess, the person who recited the ritual liturgy during ceremonies.

The "Dewat Neter" (literally the worshiper of the divine) were high ranking priestesses who could enter the holy of the holies and tend to the sacred statues of the Gods and Goddesses and performed other rites or rituals reserved for the highest ranking officials. This title is often translated as "wife of the divine". Some temples had a Immutef, a male version of this position, which translates as Pillar of his Mother. Important sacred sexual rituals would be performed together by a Dewat Neter and Immutef.

The learned of the priesthood (including doctors, witches, architects, philosophers, scientists, mathematicians, etc.) were called "Sesh Per Ankh" (which literally translates into Scribe of the House of Life).

A special class of Wab were the "Imi-Unut". These were astronomer/astrologer priests and priestesses who assisted the Sesh Per Ankh in their work.

The "Sunu" (witch doctors) were a special class of the Sesh Per Ankh who specialized in healing.

The "Sau" were worker sof protective magick.

The "Whmw" (literally meaning the messenger) was the oracles of the divine.

The "Jemira Hem-Neter" or "Jemjra Hemet-Neter" was the High Priest or High Priestess, respectively. The Jemira Hem [or hemet] Neter was usually assisted by a Sehedj Hem [Hemet] Neter, which means inspector of the oriesthood.
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 27, 2007 12:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It would appear I am late. Though, without any effort, was able to pick this as my second thread to read since logging in, which seems to be quite awhile ago now. Anyhow, I will explain my vote, as I chose other upon entrance to the thread.

I do not, as many do not, find anything but sadness in ignorance. The ignorance that would lead an individual to leap to conclusions. I do personally enjoy using many words for the Sacred Herb. I like to call it Pot sometimes, other Mary Jane, or maybe I'll smoke a Spliff. I do, however, see where Jack was trying to go with this, before the thread dissolved into argument. I have been more careful about my name of choice when discussing Cannabis with Brothers and Sisters that are not of the Ministry. Many will close their mind at the sound of the word Marijuana, among others, and that is profoundly unfortunate. One can not simply will away this ignorance. This is why I chose 'Other'. I use the word Cannabis most frequently when presenting information that I hope will help to open a mind. I would venture to say that this brings an improvement in overall reception of my message.

Peace Be With You,
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If you are still around Spin~ello, you might keep in mind that spell-check does not correct quite to quiet for you, among other things.
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 4:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha Brother Daniel

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If you are still around Spin~ello, you might keep in mind that
spell-check does not correct quite to quiet for you, among other things.

Why "if your still around".
Did I fall off the earth.
It is Jack ,that after this thread was called dude & left.
I know he lost face in our argument ,had no counter points to any of the points I made to his ignorance & used dude to escape me & others that are off ended by him.
I know this because If he resigns from forums for the word dude being used to address him ,he might be in need of psych meds ,if he cannot deal with the word dude without running.(I know he is not that weak of mind nor in will ,from his writings)

This so called minister rev or whatever title he bought or signed up for online with no credentials/substance to earn such a title.Is not full of kindness nor love IMO.As he states things like:
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I don't want to be nobody guru, priest, saint or savior, and anyone who trys to make me such will be swiftly and lovinly kicked in the ass.
(shows mindset)
He calls the M word a trigger(shows mindset)
calls Marijuana the M word one letter away from the the N word which rhymes with trigger.(shows subconscious hate IMO)
then uses analogies like
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gun can kill a person. However a word like a gun can be used to reek havoc.

(shows mindset)Then calls dude fighting words.(mindset)
IMO this man is violent by mindset & wants to fight.
I gave him one and he lost & many here seem glad he ran.

I read on the Hawaii site Mallory Jade & her dealings with him.
She stated:
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Rev Lilli I know Rev Jack in person and believe me My relationship with him is over. He has been rude to me he has shamed me. He has put my husband and I down for how we live our lives, he's not fond of women, strong women that is and I find him to be rascist at timea as well. He always says I'm sorry but no behavior change

I am not witness to either of them ,but would not be shocked if the things she states are fact due to reading the things he writes.

Dude may rhyme with crude & rude.
But I am wise & full of love enough to not think of it nor call it "fighting words"
If I see some one be crude I might ask them to refrain from being crude.
I would not have fight enter my mind unless the crudeness was physical.
If I see someone be rude I might ask them to stop & might avoid them if they continue after I explain that I have interpreted their action or words to be crude to me.(I surely would not leave a forum If I were a minister/rev of/to because of being called dude.)
If some one calls me dude ,I know most often this is not an insult & many people use this word subconsciously in response to one acting rude to them.Most often I find the word dude to be used in a most kind & loving manner by most people I observe .I have not ever seen anyone react as he did.

He then made a thread here about his leaving ,to attempt cause more fights & one at the Hawaii site to stir it up there as well.(not a judgment just an observation ,showing he likes to fight)
I asked myself ,If he has a problem with this forum why does he start an argument @ the Hawaii site in the guise of prayer.I find that most people that pray for others unhappiness when they have not stated they are in a state of unhappiness usually need to mind & pray for their own self to stop casting a message of unhappiness upon those "they claim" are unhappy.As if one states "you or they are unhappy" one has cast a spell of unhappiness toward others.& if one does it in a prayer group it magnifies the ignorance & better off than mindset.
If one looks at his prayer thread it is anything but a prayer.

Why attack my spelling?

what I stated was:
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I use Firefox & have auto spell check.I am not making fun of or attacking your spelling

I said it because writing in forums especially long intense dialogs causes even the best speller to misspell words on occasion.

Did I state spell check was a cure all?

I am not a great speller to begin with as I have dyslexia ,I have aspergers (A type of autism) as well ,& tend to spell by familiarity from use of spelling a word & its rhymes + I dropped out of school @ 12 years of age & stopped obeying people that advise me what I should keep in mind at 6.I am not familiar with the spelling of the word quiet as I had probably not spelled it since I was a small child.I misspelled that word & possibly others.So what is your point!I was trying to make a point involving the spelling of the word he used and was trying to promote open source Firefox ,which has helpful features built in.

I did not state spell check was perfect nor that I was.
I find that the other thing people do when they have nothing to counterpoint on a topic reply ,aside from misspelling a persons screen name or making a insult type pun on it.Is to
""criticize a persons spelling for no reason other than to come across as better than"".
I did not criticize his spelling & even thought he might have misspelled it on purpose.

As far as the thread dissolving in to an argument.
Maybe if Jack did not off end me & insult my intelligence by labeling innocent words I love as needing to fell.It would not have taken the turn it did.

If I stated your mothers name & then pointed insults at her & started a poll in attempt to get public support to fell her.
I am sure you would be offended & argue a case for her defense.
I am sure you would have gone much further than I did.
Cannabis is my mother & my father & my ancestor ,it is my surname & my family heritage! + I am sworn to keep the way of it & another tree.

The only thing I need to keep in mind ,is that you are not perfect just as I am not.
I would not state this to you if you had not tried to lessen my points in this topic by nit picking my spelling as your only weight to the things I have stated to defend the words I love.

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PostPosted: Wed Mar 28, 2007 2:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brother Spin~ello,

I meant no disrespect by including 'if you are still around'. As you will notice I started my post with the realization that I had found the discussion late. As such, and the fact that with how long this thread and the thread where Jack announced his departure, those were the only ones I read the other day. Therefore, I had no further information as to whether you had left as well or not. I do not wish to restart the argument that had apparently ended, merely wishing to comment on the vote I cast.

Now that I see I have the chance, I would like to thank you for mentioning your condition here. I started to do some research into it and it has opened my eyes. I was never really sure why I had problems making friends other than those that I could share my love of computers with. Even the friends that shared my common interest seemed to get bored easily. "How can you get bored with computers?" I always wondered. I had wondered why my body made these movements, why I felt compelled to make certain sounds. I wondered why everyone at school spent so much time in the hallway, to me it was simply used to get to the next class as quickly as possible. I wasted no time between classes, and sat alone unless ordered into a group. I wondered why.

After doing some research into AS, things are beginning to make sense. I am starting to realize that maybe I was not wrong all those times that I thought other people didn't see things the same way I do. It has taken me until my 21st year inhabiting this form to realize that my perceptions are different. I thank you for opening my eyes.

Peace be with you,
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PostPosted: Thu Mar 29, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha again Brother Daniel
I worry about mankind & am sorry to lash out in rants ,4 I lived in the pali(mountain) na~laau(woodland~s) of Hawaii under a shanty tarp & in a cave for many years where I regained my power of chant ,which causes me like an elephant to blow my horn at the slightest disturbance ,in most cases upsetting all around me.But I do know that just as the elephant is triumphant in protecting the jungles & savannas from all but the wind ,whom disturb even the slightest leaf of a banana.It is 4 all creatures protection ,that I get my panties rilled up easy.

I take no disrespect nor detect any conscious disrespect from you or Jack.

You are more then welcome to any insight on the condition label aspergers I proudly wear.Read as much as you can on aspergers if you think you may have symptoms of it ,as the definitions vary greatly ,thus to get a grip on if this is part of your trip on this earth ,you need to sip & nip much that is written & lipped & rip out the common substances of varying stances ,to see its picture clearly.

Here is a link to the dsm
& although I dislike tests & psychiatry as a profession ,they do have tests.
Some are Q & A like this online one.
I got 44 out of 50 on it ,for what its worth ,as it is merely one test of many I have taken & it takes many to make an accurate diagnosis.
They state Eighty percent of those diagnosed with autism or a related disorder scored 32 or higher.

Additionally brains scan imagery can indicate that ones mental activity of the brain is different than the so called normal human.

P.S.
One is not ever wrong ,mankind simply has not learned the subliminal song that vibrates in all.Wrong & right are of the same coin yet ignorant to the vibrations that hold the metal it is made of together ,thus being sightless that one side can not exist without the other side.When all hear the song ,honey shall flow & money & its collar known as the dollar shall cease & true freedom shall reign/rain.
IMO ,as wrong & right are the cause of most fights & frights,due to one side saying they see the light more than the other,causing the other side to take flight or be labeled as having a blight.Which could ,at the slightest summon lead to a gunsight type mentality upon them from those that claim exclusive rights to the light & thus flex their might ,due to no insight that night is as important as light ,as without the dark ,we hark no songs from the larks of our parks ,nor the sunrise they angelically summon ,nor would the creature known as the shark/manu go to the bottom to sleep so it can rest between the cleansing work it does to the sheep of the oceans.Even greater yet the hashmarks upon a cave wall that sparked the gift of writing that enlighten us all would not have happened ,nor the insight of the hash(em)~mark scratcher that long ago deep in the darkness of a cave ,gave mankind a mission to save our planet from the grave ,due to a glimpse of a comet far in his future that like others in the past have hurt all creatures of this planet ,by causing a wound in need of a suture.The original plan was to use mankind & guide them,but be kind to them & not blind them ,so as to ride them.To save us all ,not enslave some.Mankind can & could stop a comet now & the bleeding of mankind shall soon stop & its vampires shall soon be placed & locked back in the coffins ,creatures of their sort should normally lay dead in.

P.S.S
As far as boredom goes I have spent complete days ,watching ants ,as an example ,stopping only at night to sleep ,& have lived in isolation most of my life & not ever known boredom.
Lonelyness & depression on the other hand often occur with aspergers people.
thus to you
I bid(offer)U peace & wish 4 you only happyness
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 4:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What I have just read about that diagnosis is so vague that a doctor can easily diagnose with that syndrome anyone who deviates from the average television habits. And it was defined by one of them with a holey record* of what he did under the Nazis - even though this profession was drawn more into fascism than any other (e.g. 8% of doctors were SS, but only 0.4% of teachers). Under the Nazis, a reduced desire to socialise ("innere Emigration") was a refuge of mental health.

All these definitions remind me of a recent case just a few counties from here, in which police removed a homeschooled kid from her Baptist family with the following diagnosis:

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Melissa Busekros was examined by us. She has a childhood emotional disorder, severe school phobia and an oppositional denial-syndrome. Melissa lacks insight into her illness and the need for treatment, and considers herself healthy and her behaviour fully normal. M. needs urgent help in a closed setting if need be, and subsequent special education treatment to ensure schooling. (ICD-10:F92.0)

This has attracted considerable attention from American conservatives up to the point that Pat Robertson called for complaints to the German embassy.



The latest news is that officials intervened when her visiting father tried to show the kid a television videoclip depicting another official asserting that she had never asked to go home.
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha Nachtschattenreich(Night shade realm)
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 30, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha Nachtschattenreich(Night shade realm)

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What I have just read about that diagnosis is so vague that a doctor can easily diagnose with that syndrome anyone who deviates from the average television habits.

Sounds like you did not read much.
The dsm link I provided in my previous post is what the doctors use to help with diagnoses.(it mentions nothing of television habits)

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And it was defined by one of them with a holey record* of what he did under the Nazis - even though this profession was drawn more into fascism than any other (e.g. 8% of doctors were SS, but only 0.4% of teachers). Under the Nazis, a reduced desire to socialise ("innere Emigration") was a refuge of mental health.

It is named after Asperger by Lorna Wing in 1981 & not in this day defined by Aspergers work ,he published the first definition ,not the current ones. & as your link shows , much of his works were lost.

& as far as his holey record.I try not make judgments or speculate on things not known nor do I think all doctors in Germany were monsters like Josef Mengele & for that matter I know that most Germans caught a germ infection from the high ups like Hitler & if they did not do as told would be labeled a jew sympathizer(dangerous in that day & place) .This is just as I do not blame all Americans for Bush & his neo~con~men.If war crimes were committed by Asperger show me evidence.Otherwise you add unfounded suspicion about a man ,whom is dead & can not defend his honor.

And as far as the current case of the girl known as Melissa Busekros or M. you presented.I am saddened to hear that people in Germany are doing these things to her freedom.Like the second link you provided states "abuse of medical authority" seems to be occurring.

& as for the Pat Robertson link:
I did not read it ,as I find him to be spewer of false things(such as teachings) ,to skewer people to his point of view or label those that do not agree with him as being lost in a sewer or need in to be flushed down a one.I find too much hate in the past things I have seen & heard him say to accept any of his word ,as much poison often goes with it IMO.

I do thank you 4 bringing her case to my attention ,& now mention that I did not see any diagnosis of aspergers.(I did a word search ,even on the Pat Robertson link.).

This is important info to aid in getting people to hear her case & give her positive energy.You could make a thread solely on it(only a suggestion) ,as I & you are drifting off the original topic of this one.
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***note to Brother Daniel if you wish to talk more about aspergers with me , lets do it in PMs or in a separate thread on the topic*************
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As a last note on this subject ,here.
I do hope wish & pray ,that the light of the ray of the modern day dawns on those that have done this to her & her family ,to show them the way back to helping people ,which is what they are there to do.
I do hope wish & pray that Melissa Busekros soon gets to stay @ the place of her choosing.

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PostPosted: Sat Mar 31, 2007 7:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Spinello - What I read were essentially your links and a few Wikipedia articles. It may just be my general skepticism of doctors, but from these materials I got the impression that the Asperger diagnosis is very vague and might rather describe a cultural difference than an actual disorder.

This is why I brought up the Melissa Buesekros case, of which I think it also belongs into that category although the diagnosis is slightly different. Her case is not Cannabis-related, but together with what you said it reminded me of Martin Niemöller´s First they came...

And I did not fill in the questionnaire linked above, since I noted that the site does not even use https encryption to protect the confidential information users may provide to it. Any attacker reading your traffic can watch your profile with no effort, this is even less secure than onlinebanking.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aloha

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Spinello - What I read were essentially your links and a few Wikipedia articles. It may just be my general skepticism of doctors, but from these materials I got the impression that the Asperger diagnosis is very vague and might rather describe a cultural difference than an actual disorder.

This is why I brought up the Melissa Buesekros case, of which I think it also belongs into that category although the diagnosis is slightly different. Her case is not Cannabis-related, but together with what you said it reminded me of Martin Niemöller´s First they came...

And I did not fill in the questionnaire linked above, since I noted that the site does not even use https encryption to protect the confidential information users may provide to it. Any attacker reading your traffic can watch your profile with no effort, this is even less secure than onlinebanking.

It is a label ,I did not create it.
IMO skepticism is usually often wise.

As 4 the questionnaire link.
You do not need to fill out the personal info stuff 2 participate.

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PostPosted: Wed Sep 19, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: CHILL CHAPS Reply with quote

Far out you guys! all this because of words! thats all they are regardless of context, they are just words, it's the actions behind the words that really matter. Go In Peace,and thanks be to god whatever you may call him, for ALL the blessed green bushes whatever you may call them Wink
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