THC Ministry :: Community Forum Index
1,188 Americans Killed in Iraq

Post new topic   Reply to topic    THC Ministry :: Community Forum Index -> Issues of war and peace
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.
Cannabis Sacrament Minister.

Joined: 14 Apr 2003
Posts: 2018
Location: Amsterdam

PostPosted: Thu Feb 12, 2004 8:07 pm    Post subject: 1,188 Americans Killed in Iraq Reply with quote


1,188 Americans Killed in Iraq - Your Son Will Be Next
Republican Guard still controls eighty-five percent of the country

Copyright Joe Vialls, 11 February 2004

According to a well-placed Pentagon source, the White House and corporate media are reporting less than half the actual American military deaths in Iraq. As of 3 February 2004, the 'official' media total stood at 528, while the real total at midnight on the same day was 1,188. This criminal discrepancy in the fatality figures is not the fault of soldiers on the ground in Iraq, but of corrupt civilians in the Pentagon working for Paul Wolfowitz Inc. The Pentagon officer explained it like this.

"If a soldier is completely dismembered by a bomb, then he is dead. Likewise, if a soldier is hit by a full burst of machine-gun fire, then he also is dead. The problems start when the medic [on the ground] is not quite sure whether the injured soldier is dead or not. We all like to save life if possible, so if the medic believes there is the faintest glimmer of hope, the injured soldier is sent immediately to the nearest [medical] aid station."

"The split-second that soldier is removed from contact [wherever the incident took place], he is officially listed as 'wounded', regardless of whether he then dies 3 seconds or minutes or hours or days or months later, as a direct result of injuries sustained in the contact. Deaths in transit to the U.S., or after soldiers return home are also excluded completely, or become 'accidental deaths'. This is how Wolfowitz and his people massage the figures, and how the American public is misled."

Initially these comments sound suspiciously like an angry senior officer exaggerating the case in an attempt to have his unit prematurely withdrawn from the Iraqi killing fields. However, as the officer carefully went on to explain, his claims are borne out and substantiated by the very different way in which the corporate media reports civilian deaths in Iraq.

A good recent example was the synchronized twin-bombing in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil, which targeted the Patriotic Union of Kurdistan [PUK], and the Kurdistan Democratic Party [KDP], both of which groups work in tandem with the American Central Intelligence Agency [CIA], in an ongoing campaign to undermine Iraqi 'resistance' in the north of Iraq.

Most readers will remember being told that 56 people were killed in the twin-bombing, which was the corporate media 'official' figure you were all supposed to remember permanently. Then just a few days later the BBC issued a very quiet, almost unseen, and hard-to-find update on its website, advising, "The death toll from the weekend's twin suicide bombings in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil has risen to 101".

Fine, this seems to be an honest reappraisal of the situation, until you realize that the BBC is an integral part of the corporate media establishment, trying desperately hard to convince the British and American publics in particular, to go "all the way with the USA" in the cynical run-up to their respective Parliamentary and Presidential elections later this year.

To get a better feel for the acute level of danger American, British, and Australian servicemen face in Iraq, we are obliged to look at the reportage of the same event from a relatively 'neutral' country, in this case Pakistan, a largely cosmetic ally of America. There are two Pakistani journalists stationed in northern Iraq, both Muslim, but with no particular axe to grind where either the Muslim Kurds or Muslim Iraqis are concerned. This is how they reported exactly the same event.

"Over 400 people were killed when two suicide bombers blew themselves up at two Kurdish party offices in the northern Iraqi city of Irbil on Sunday morning, a Kurdish minister said. About 160 people were believed to be killed in the attack at two Patriotic Union of Kurdistan [PUK] offices and about 80 others at the Kurdistan Democratic Party [KDP] office. Among the dead was the Deputy Governor of Irbil province" ... "At the time of the bombings the offices were packed with hundreds of people celebrating the Eid al-Adha" [a Muslim festival].

The real truth probably lies midway between the BBC and Pakistani reports, say 250 dead from a single precision asymmetric operation. We can cut these Pakistani journalists a little slack for using the term 'suicide bombers', because just like all other media outlets in Iraq, this is what they are automatically led to believe by the Zionist spin-doctors.

For as long as you the public can be made to believe that 'suicide' or 'suicide car' bombers are responsible for these attacks, your brain involuntarily forms a series of flashing mental images of tiny bands of 'terrorists' desperately fighting a rearguard action, but who, in the fullness of time, will be totally overwhelmed by vastly superior American, British, and Australian forces. There is not even a tiny hint of the reality that 85% of Iraq is still effectively controlled by the Republican Guard.

What would happen in America today if you were allowed access to the truth? What would happen if you managed to work out for yourself that in order to arrive at the real figures, you first needed to increase the level of risk from 56 to 250 for every single attack since the illegal invasion began, i.e. if you knew the actual risk to your loved ones since March 2003 was five times as high as that reported by the American corporate media. Would you be angry? Of course you would! The public backlash would be so savage, that even the most corrupt of politicians on Capitol Hill would be obliged to bring the troops home.

More than 15,000 [yes, fifteen thousand] American servicemen have already been critically injured in this completely insane Zionist attack on the birthplace of civilization, but Wolfowitz and the corporate media never allow you to catch a glimpse of even one of them. These physically deformed and sometimes psychologically tormented creatures, who used to be proud American soldiers, have been deliberately scattered far and wide across the land, a cynical technique that ensures they stay well hidden among 288 million other Americans.

The controlled media propaganda has been so complete and so overwhelming, that initially it seems almost impossible to reverse it in order to expose the unacceptable harsh reality, which is simply that eighty-five percent of Iraq is still controlled by 50,000+ members of the Republican Guard, all of them [originally] trained in asymmetric warfare techniques by Russian Spetsnaz instructors.

Now think about this very carefully people, in particular think about the numbers. What they mean in simple terms is that for every 2.2 inexperienced American infantrymen exposed in full view across the length and breadth of Iraq, there is one carefully hidden and highly trained Iraqi equivalent of a Fort Bragg Green Beret. The Iraqi Special Forces teams have all the cover, know their own areas intimately, have plenty of food, are armed to the teeth, and take no chances whatsoever. They kill Americans on their own terms whenever they want to, which means that the war of attrition is strictly a one-way affair against the invasion forces. The reason you probably do not know this already, is because of deliberate endemic disinformation peddled night and day by the Zionist-controlled corporate media.

The most blatant and continually recycled lie is that 'foreign insurgents' and 'al Qaeda terrorists' are to blame for western soldiers being killed and critically injured in Iraq, but nothing could be further from the truth. Veteran journalist Robert Fisk trashed this lie completely when he visited Baghdad Airport several weeks ago. Out of approximately 5,000 prisoners held at the airport, less than 200 were non-Iraqis, of whom Fisk reported, "more than ninety-percent were already living and working in Iraq before the invasion". The truth of the matter is that the Zionists are now frantic to complete their impossible dream of stealing Iraq's oil reserves, and intend to sacrifice your son in an illegal 'war' that can never be won.

To properly understand Iraq today, we need to look briefly at how the Republican Guard handled the initial invasion, why its members abandoned all of their armored vehicles, and why they deliberately left the Gates of Baghdad open for the American invaders. Then we need to examine the vast arsenals of Iraqi conventional weaponry available to the thousands of small Republican Guard counter-insurgency teams, and some of their asymmetric warfare techniques. Before we do that, let us first work out 'who is who' in this unequal contest, because propaganda used by the western corporate media has led to considerable creative confusion.

Though the New York Times and others would have you believe that Iraqis fighting to free Iraq from illegal occupation are "insurgents", this is not correct. America, Britain and Australia illegally invaded a sovereign nation state recognized internationally as such, then undermined, imprisoned or expelled members of Iraq's recognized government, while committing gross acts of terrorism including mass murder against Iraqi nationals. By strict legal as well as moral definition, America, Britain and Australia are the "insurgents" in Iraq. Those Iraqis who try to defend their families against these gross acts of terrorism on their own sovereign territory, are "counter insurgents".

Try not to be sidetracked by meaningless mumbo jumbo about "Weapons of Mass Destruction", or accusations of President Saddam Hussein committing heinous crimes within Iraq, for both are creative media red herrings. In the first case, America has more weapons of mass destruction than any other nation on earth, and in the second, internal criminal behavior is a national matter, and not a lawful excuse to invade a sovereign country. For example, I currently live in Australia, where obsequious Prime Minister John Howard takes his orders direct from the Zionist Lobby in New York, which amounts to high treason under Australian constitutional law. But distasteful and unlawful though they may be, Howard's proven crimes at the internal national level, do not give China or North Korea a legitimate excuse to invade this sovereign country.

Ever since 1991, Iraq has known that America intended to invade one day, and thus had plenty of time to make elaborate preparations. And as each year passed by after that, with American bombs wantonly raining down and murdering their women and children in the illegal northern and southern "No Fly Zones", Iraqi determination to fight back grew, especially on the part of the Iraqi Military High Command. It was obvious to the generals that Iraq could never hope to defeat American air superiority, nor could it defeat modern American battle tanks like the Abrams, so from late1996 onwards, Iraqi strategy and tactics became exclusively asymmetric.

Crude old-fashioned chemical weapons of the kind Iraq and Iran fired at each during the eighties were a strict "no no", because their very presence would be the only excuse the Zionists would need to shower Baghdad, Tikrit, and Mosul with tactical nuclear weapons. Accordingly, old chemical weapon stocks were destroyed, while at the same time Iraqi military personnel distributed vast quantities of conventional weapons to thousands of different [mostly buried] caches across the country.

By late 1999, the Iraqi military had achieved what many western observers might well think was impossible. Because of the widespread caches and multiple bunkers, members of the Republican Guard would never be more than ten miles away from a weapon supply. Each basic cache contains high explosives for culvert bombs, radio detonators, basic remote control kits for cars and light trucks, rocket propelled grenades, hand grenades, mortar bombs, light machine guns, assault rifles and ammunition.


BBC Machinations

by John Pilger , February 06, 2004

Shortly after the collapse of the Iraqi regime, the BBC's Today programme sent Andrew Gilligan to Baghdad. Gilligan's reports were unlike anything the BBC had broadcast. They contradicted the official Anglo-American line about "liberation" and made clear that, for a great many Iraqis, the invasion and occupation were at least as bad as life under Saddam Hussein.
This was heresy, prompting Alastair Campbell to move Gilligan to the top of his list of "rants", as Greg Dyke has described them. "Gullible Gilligan" was Campbell's term of abuse, which meant that the reporter was on to something. Like his subsequent report that the government had "sexed up" its Iraq dossier, Gilligan's conclusion was right, and has since been repeatedly proven right. There is no liberation in Iraq. There is a vicious colonial occupation. The government "sexed up" not one, but two dossiers.
Campbell's attacks were reminiscent of those orchestrated against other journalists who have distinguished themselves by departing from the script. For telling the truth about the carnage of Queen Victoria's favourite war, in the Crimea, the Times correspondent William Howard Russell was damned as a traitor. For revealing the human cost of the American bombing of North Vietnam in 1965, James Cameron was smeared as a "dupe of communism".
"When they call you a dupe," Cameron told me, "what they are really complaining about is that you are not their dupe." The BBC bought the exclusive rights to Cameron's film, then suppressed it; just as it suppressed The War Game, Peter Watkins's brilliant recreation of Britain under nuclear attack; just as it suppressed or doctored countless works that sought to explain the British war in Northern Ireland, such as Article 5, Brian Phelan's play about torture, and Colin Thomas's film City on the Border. Thomas was ordered by BBC chiefs to cut a scene which showed a gravestone that read, "Murdered by British soldiers on Bloody Sunday." He refused, and resigned. Snip

>>>>Rev. Ferre's surfin' habits<<<<

My present favourite song about the miserable failure, click HERE.
Read the Board Rules
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
senior member
senior member

Joined: 22 Jan 2004
Posts: 211
Location: Ecuador

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 3:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The press has always been treating the world like children. Its so patetic really how a lot of people can believe such things. It never made any sense that they wanted to destroy weapons of mass destruction, if so, they should destroy their own; it was obvious that they were after the oil.
By now, anyone who thinks that the US were in the right to invade Irak must have something wrong inside his/her brain.
Sadly, the US rule the world, they are now seeking for oil with the excuse of destroying weapons of mass destruction. In Latin America they are seeking for natural resources and water, they are sending a lot of troops with the excuse of fighting against drugs and also with an economic treaty that only benefits US big companies and that would make even poorer our people.
I don´t know where else is the US army, but I know that where ever they are, they are lying and taking advantage of someone else.
It is just sad, people don´t believe the truth but believe whatever television says.

It has to stop someday, somehow.

Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Cannabis Sacrament Minister
Cannabis Sacrament Minister

Joined: 12 Dec 2003
Posts: 2566

PostPosted: Fri Feb 13, 2004 8:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats really disturbing how they manipulate our news. I can almost hear the string quartet lolling the americans into Bush's false contented state of brainwashed emotions and ideas that this is all ok. While our borthers and sisters go to slave encampments over a God given herb. .
disgusted ~Lilli~
"2 Corinthians 1:12 - For our boasting is this, the testimony of our conscience, that in simplicity and sincerity before God, (not in fleshly wisdom but in God's grace,) we have had our conversation in the world, and more abundantly towards you.' Over the oil
" I pass to you the torch that Christ once passed to me,others are still in the dark an need the light to see"
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    THC Ministry :: Community Forum Index -> Issues of war and peace All times are GMT
Page 1 of 1

Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
Public forum Public Forum Members only Members only forum Members Group Members Group

THC-Light skin designed for THC Ministry by JuggoPop of
Powered by phpBB | THC Ministry Members | Cannabis Religion | Sacrament | Forum html archives | phpbb HTML Archiver - Created by and released by